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Could anybody tell me if a kawasaki turn relay swap mite be possible onto the 929? Has only two ways, for 929 there are three ways (two exits, one for every side, left and right) In theory i'm thinking mite be posible, but, i'm afraid not to screw the rest of the diagram.
I don't see how it could hurt as long as it was a 12volt bike.
 

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I'm not much of a specialist, but, the swap sounded easy. Even the relays socket is the same, only that the kawa relay misses one pin. So the solution was to conect left and right from the main harness. Not being a specialis an' al, connecting those two wires i'm afraid not to close or open another circuits.....being all so interconected.......
 

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yeah honda uses three wires (one for running light, one for blinker power, and a ground) other manufactures have two wire blinkers and either don't have running lights or the blinker relay (or blinker switch it's self) is set up to cut power to the constant and allow the blinker relay to power the one wire going to the blinker.
 

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Could anybody tell me if a kawasaki turn relay swap mite be possible onto the 929? Has only two ways, for 929 there are three ways (two exits, one for every side, left and right) In theory i'm thinking mite be posible, but, i'm afraid not to screw the rest of the diagram.
The 929 relay has 3 "pins" I assume you mean?
One pin is +12v
one pin is 0v
the last pin (grey wire) is the flashing output.

if you're replacing with a 2 pin relay it will need to be inbetween the +12v and flashing output wire , the grey one.
 

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So the solution was to conect left and right from the main harness. Not being a specialis an' al, connecting those two wires i'm afraid not to close or open another circuits.....being all so interconected.......
No, don't connect left and right sides together. if you're lucky the Kawa relay will plug in and the missing pin does not matter , it's just the earth pin which isn't needed with an electronic relay.
 

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The 929 relay has 3 "pins" I assume you mean?
One pin is +12v
one pin is 0v
the last pin (grey wire) is the flashing output.

if you're replacing with a 2 pin relay it will need to be inbetween the +12v and flashing output wire , the grey one.
We solved this on the other thread Mollari... you said the US bikes have running lights (three wires) and UK bikes don't (two wires)

no, don't connect left and right sides together. if you're lucky the Kawa relay will plug in and the missing pin does not matter , it's just the earth pin which isn't needed with an electronic relay.
Nope relays need grounds... they have four wires going to them:
1. the constant input (+)
2. the controlled output (+)
3. the relay control lead (usually a power wire from a switch telling to to go on or off... or you can just bridge it with #1 and control the relay with #4)
4. The earth ground
 

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Yep, so you have the intergrated power for the relay off the 12volt wire it's controlling (its a 3.4watt controller)... Basically #3 in my previous post is intergrated inside the relay.

Anyway... so those three plugs are:
1. the constant input (+)
2. the controlled output (+)
3. The earth ground (which is the controller of the relay)


To find out which is which just do a google search:)

GL!
 

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Another version................

So i'll tell you what a friend of mine explained to me:
The 929 relay has 3 ways because one is the "in" signal and the other two are one for the left side blinkers and the other for the rifht side blinkers. Now....the kawa (zx9, from the bike i had before 929) has only two because one is the "in" signal and the other is for the whole lot of blinkers (left and right). Olso said that the 3 way pin relay is a much better system, being so hazard warning lights/emergency lights/four-way flashes ready, the kawa relay cannot sustain emergency lights with that two way system.


..........so MattCBR, what should i do, plug it like that, or conect what to what??
Please explain it to me like you would do to a child, paint jobs and electrics are not my area of expertise...
 

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Another version................

So i'll tell you what a friend of mine explained to me:
The 929 relay has 3 ways because one is the "in" signal and the other two are one for the left side blinkers and the other for the rifht side blinkers. Now....the kawa (zx9, from the bike i had before 929) has only two because one is the "in" signal and the other is for the whole lot of blinkers (left and right). Olso said that the 3 way pin relay is a much better system, being so hazard warning lights/emergency lights/four-way flashes ready, the kawa relay cannot sustain emergency lights with that two way system.


..........so MattCBR, what should i do, plug it like that, or conect what to what??
Please explain it to me like you would do to a child, paint jobs and electrics are not my area of expertise...
Hazard lights on a bike?
I wouldn't bother, bikes don't have enough battery capacity to run four indicators for very long.
 

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Nope relays need grounds... they have four wires going to them:
Electronic, two pin relays do not have earths.

Suicide, I see what you mean about a relay that has separate outs so you can indeed run hazard lights.
If that relay has two outputs for left and right on a kawasaki, maybe you could just use one of them for your 929, try that.
 

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Ok guys I just bought a 01 929 and the guy before me try to streetlight the bike but he destroyed the wire harness in the process. I have two wire looms coming off of the ignition switch. One hooked up and one just hanging there can anybody identify the purpose of this connector below. I cant find it on the wire diagram. And imcant find an empty plug to hook it up to. The bike starts and runs.
 

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Ok guys I just bought a 01 929 and the guy before me try to streetlight the bike but he destroyed the wire harness in the process. I have two wire looms coming off of the ignition switch. One hooked up and one just hanging there can anybody identify the purpose of this connector below. The bike starts and runs.
 

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Ok guys I just bought a 01 929 and the guy before me try to streetlight the bike but he destroyed the wire harness in the process. I have two wire looms coming off of the ignition switch. One hooked up and one just hanging there can anybody identify the purpose of this connector below. The bike starts and runs.

What does "streetlight" mean?
 

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Ok guys I just bought a 01 929 and the guy before me try to streetlight the bike but he destroyed the wire harness in the process. I have two wire looms coming off of the ignition switch. One hooked up and one just hanging there can anybody identify the purpose of this connector below. I cant find it on the wire diagram. And imcant find an empty plug to hook it up to. The bike starts and runs.

Is it a Californian bike perhaps? Maybe the O2 sensor?
Any codes flashing on the dash?
 

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Ok guys I just bought a 01 929 and the guy before me try to streetlight the bike but he destroyed the wire harness in the process. I have two wire looms coming off of the ignition switch. One hooked up and one just hanging there can anybody identify the purpose of this connector below. The bike starts and runs.


HISS connector? The ignition switch in the picture has the HISS block on it.

Edit: Look at the European wiring diagram at the beginning of this topic.Find the immobiliser next to the ignition switch. It has the same 4 wires and colours .

I'm guessing the bike you've bought Had Hiss but then it's been removed and therefore must have a different ECM.
Or the Ignition switch is second hand from a HISS bike and it's just been ignored.
Guesses really.
 
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