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What battery model have the rest of you guys got on your 929? Mine currently is a ytx 9bs which after looking around is not the right one for a 929. It apparently fits pre 2000 blades , the battery was put on by the dealer just over 12 months ago but recently the bike is still going flat even with a battery tender on so its likely the batterys knackered. I'm wondering if I stand a chance of the dealer putting the right battery on which i think is a ytz 10bs. Its not the reg as i've had a meter on and its putting out 14.5 v all round.
 

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I believe both my Hornet and 954RR use a YTZ10S...

I think the numbers represent the different "Amp Hour" the batteries have... (Better do some research)

YTZ10S/BS Fits the following Motorbikes
  • Honda CBR600F4i (2001-2005)
  • Honda CBR600RR (2001-2005)
  • Honda VT600C (2004-2005)
  • Honda CB900F (919) (2002-2005)
  • Honda CBR929RR (2000-2001)
  • Honda CBR1000RR (2004-2005)
  • Yamaha YZF-R1 (2004)
  • and others..
Also Replaces
  • Varta 508 901 015
  • CTZ10S-BS
  • FTZ10S-BS
(Taken from YTZ10S-BS CTZ10S-BS FTZ10S-BS R1 Honda Motorcycle Battery Yamaha R1)
 

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IMO, it would be hard to convice the dealer to replace the battery. One is a 9AH model and the other a 10AH. Not that big of a difference. Some people fit a smaller battery to save weight.
 

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The UK might be different, but in the us it is six-months:

"What is the warranty period on a Yuasa battery?

Yuasa does not handle warranty issues directly. All inquiries should be directed to the dealer where the battery was purchased. Their distributor sets the warranty period and handles all claims. Time frame is not specified by Yuasa, but the majority of the distributors give 6 months free repalcement, provided the customer has dated proof of purchase. Proper testing of the battery is required to be performed, at the certified Yuasa dealer, in order to submit a claim."
 

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unfortunatley the dealer put it on so i,ve no receipt.Lets face it he just put the cheapest one on and another thing thats bothered me is he never serviced the bike and the excuse was it wasn't near the service milage. I'd have liked an oil and filter change from him like any decent dealer would do , the bike had 7500 miles on it and the book says 8000 for oil/filter change.I'm just having a new year moan and get it out the way.
 

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I don't think you need to worry about it.
They could've serviced it and put a better battery in it - but then you probably would've paid more when you bought it.
If you'd felt the servicing was that big a deal why didn't you simply ask them to service it when you bought it? You would've paid the same whether they did it before you bought it or afterwards.
As for the battery, they don't last forever anyway so you would have to reasonably expect to have to replace it at some point on a seven-year-old bike.
 

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My Fireblade never had its services on the exact mileage... it was usually a few hundred below or over. Not sure why they are being strange.

Was it free services? The battery may have been left over from another bike or laying around stock :idunno:

As for the battery, they don't last forever anyway so you would have to reasonably expect to have replace it at some point on a seven-year-old bike.
Thats one thing I'm not looking forward to :( I already had to replace the 954RR's one when I purchased it (its reading was about 2.7volts!)
 

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My Fireblade never had its services on the exact mileage... it was usually a few hundred below or over. Not sure why they are being strange.
I don't think they were being strange - they just didn't want to do it for free. Sure, they could've serviced it early while it was on the floor and added the cost to the sale price on the price tag but that extra may be just enough to turn off a potential buyer.
 

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I don't think they were being strange - they just didn't want to do it for free. Sure, they could've serviced it early while it was on the floor and added the cost to the sale price on the price tag but that extra may be just enough to turn off a potential buyer.
My mistake... I thought he had already bought the bike and was getting a free service. :rolleyes:
 

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I'd already asked about the service about 2 or 3 months back and he just said it wasn't ready for one , bear in mind he was a kawasaki dealer. I'm going up when he opens up again and see what happens. The previous bikes I'd bought , the dealers put fresh oil and filters on which really they should do. Its not much , £30.00 , I did it myself , 30 minute job for me. My bike had been in his shop for a while and had a couple of knockbacks from customers so I probably did him a favour, dont know why, its a nice looking bike, although I was after a 954.
 

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If you wanted a 954RR, you shouldnt have settled for anything less :D

Bearing in mind, companies want to save as much as possible so they would be at a more of a loss if they did the oil and filter change. (Plus Labour)

Why not do the servicing yourself?
 

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In all honesty it was the erion paint job that drew me to it. I thought after 4 years with the blackbird I'll try a blade after all you have to have one at some point , Dont you?. I normally do my own servicing up to a point that is and I've already done the oil/filter change on the 929 which as I said took about 40 minutes in my shed so begs the question why did they not do it when it was due? lazy springs to mind. He actually said a new battery was fitted as well!
 

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He actually said a new battery was fitted as well!
Do you mean that you don't think it was a new battery?
You said it was fitted more than a year ago.
 

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At the time he said the original was fryed and replaced it it with a new one so I checked when I got home and it did look new etc. Dont get me wrong , this time last year the bike and battery was good but now its not . batteries should last longer than 12 months , Im just trying to find an arguement for the dealer toreplace it with the right one , I believe the ytz 10bs has more cranking power which sounds right cos the battery thats in now didn't spin the motor fast when its " fully " charged. My 1100 spun quicker.
 

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It depends on the battery. A cheap Chinese battery might be struggling to last a year if you're only riding every weekend or two.
A top shelf Yuasa though should last at least four years.
I'm not suggesting the dealer shouldn't have fitted the correct battery. My point is simply that if he'd fitted a $50 battery instead of a $150 Yuasa you probably saved the $100 on what you paid for the bike. If you're suggesting that you bought the bike because it had a $150 battery in it then you would have cause to be concerned I guess.
 

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Maybe its just the good old British weather? It seems to be killing quite a few batteries recently.
 

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At the time he said the original was fryed and replaced it it with a new one so I checked when I got home and it did look new etc. Dont get me wrong , this time last year the bike and battery was good but now its not . batteries should last longer than 12 months , Im just trying to find an arguement for the dealer toreplace it with the right one , I believe the ytz 10bs has more cranking power which sounds right cos the battery thats in now didn't spin the motor fast when its " fully " charged. My 1100 spun quicker.
Then why does the manufacturer offer no warranty and let the distributor decide the coverage; which is usually 6-months? Some batteries just don't last, other do; but it also goes with how you cared for it.
 

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I get what bladeracer is saying but will it not fit into the fit for use scenario? It did at the time I suppose. Any dealer should replace faulty or broken parts before selling their "goods" which he did but the longevity is at question . I left the bike overnight without the optimate on and it was slow at firing up, thats just over 12 hours. It's basically a cheap battery not being up to the job.
 

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Does the light on the Optimate illuminate saying the battery is fully charged?

The battery might have disintergrated over time, I see it a lot with customers cars. Although the charger may charge it back up to 12.8V (or what ever the charger stops at), the battery may not be strong enough to start a bike.

Buy once, Buy quality, Buy Yuasa.
 
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