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i been searching around the forums and i decided my short azz "only 5'5" tall" would be happy with a aftermarket seat instead of lowering the suspension because i love the way the 929 handles i really dont want to mess with suspension too much. all i need is about a inch to be more comfortable parking her as far as riding it would be easier to carry a passenger if the bike was a little lower but passengers ruin the ride anyway:D also those who have had both which is more comfortable.

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I prefer Sargents. I don't think either one really lowers you much.
Also, they are a bit wider than the stock seats, at least towards the rear, so that can make your legs spread further apart. I didn't really notice much difference, height-wise. I'm 5'4". I just scoot my butt over to the left a bit and get my left foot solidly planted on the ground. The 929 suffers from ground clearance as it is, so I also didn't want to lower mine.

Only thing to maybe try is shaving some foam out of the seat, but that'll make it more uncomfortable.
 

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Shakey Im not sure exactly how much lower the seats are but they probably would help you a bit. At 5.5 I would still consider dropping the bike an inch. Unless you are on the track and really draging it the drop will not hurt you on the street and I have found even makes the bike feel more planted and easy to flick side to side. I corner pretty well and never grind hard parts with mine an inch lower. As long as you drop the front and back the same amount it wont change the steering geometry.
 

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Considering what honda gal said you may have to just lower it a bit. I know a guy that cut a section out of the bottom of his seat so the foam is not supported. It doesnt seem to hurt anything and it feels far softer and is lower. What if you re foamed the seat with thinner but more spongy stuff like memory foam?
 

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ive been thinkin to drop forks thru the triple tree bout half a inch and dial in the preload about the same. with corbin seat people are saying the corbin drops seat height bout 1 inch but i havent heard that about sargent yet but they look similar. im waiting till i get a steering damper before i make any changes that will quicken my steering this bike seems to be able to read my mind when it comes to steering or lane changes its my first blade and now i see how it got that name i love this machine
 

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If you drop both ends it will stay the same. Dropping just the front will make it more twitchy and steer faster. The corbin and Sargent seats are about the same shape but I would listen to HondaGal on that one since she has exp with it and is a pretty smart cookie. Changing the rear adjustments just to make it softer so it sags more wouldnt be the best option. Drop it the right way so the suspension action remains the same.
 

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cranking the preload should make it stiff not softer i dont really want it softer but i can adjust the dampening accordingly to compensate. i lowered my zx7 this way and it got a firmer ride i dont plan on changing the stiffness at all.

preload is just compressing the spring a little bit like a half inch should not really make a big change but give me a more positive footing when parking ill try the seat first and see how i like it.


hondagal, where in nj are you from. it would be cool to get some info from u as im new to my 929 and you sound very experienced id like to check out the sargent seat on your bike if i can. i dont really need to lower it but it would make riding passengers easier its kinda funny to think i can whip around a supermoto but want to bring the blade closer to earth
 

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What Doom said if you decide to drop it. Dropping the forks only will make it twitcher than it already is. I've never lowered a bike, how do you drop the rear, just out of curiosity? Is there ride height adjustment on the 929 shock?

I've just gotten used to being on my toes over the years, it's not even a second thought anymore...
 

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you just install a lowering link. You can get them usually in various drops from 1 inch to 3 inches. Usually they have a "stock" height setting so returning the bike to normal height is a simple matter of moving a bolt in the link.
 

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look at the spring there is a adjustment to change the preload its above the spring on the 929 with slots for a spanner wrench. on my zx7 you had two locknuts you would crank the one directly under the spring to lower it and then crank the other one up underneath the top one to lock it in place like coilovers on a car.

you do not have to play with the sag at all to do this just not sure how to do it on the 929 yet
 

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The preload is the sag (actually SAK). Adjusting that just softens the spring so the back drops. When it gets compressed from a bump it will have to travel further before it gets as hard as it normally would when properly preloaded. Preload is not a ride height adjustment.

Maybe its sac... I forget how its spelled.
 

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Hey again, I'm north of you in central NJ, up by Rt. 78. Sure, if we can find the time, you can check out my Sargent seat. I may ride next Sunday, not sure yet...
 

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Id have to go look at my bike but on my WP shock the spring preload rings are on top of the spring. Either way moving the spanners away from the spring towards the end of the shock would be reducing preload and making the spring softer which lowers the back.
 

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Nope, Doom is correct, making the spring softer or stiffer doesn't change the ride height. Sometimes people soften the rear spring so the bike sags more under their weight, and is therefore lower to the ground, but that's not changing ride height. That's the incorrect way to do it. Either a shock with ride height adjustment (and I don't think that will give you an inch, I think only minor adjustments) or a lowering link will change the ride height.

Changing the softness/stiffness of the spring is done to set the proper sag (sag= distance the bike settles in the front and rear with you sitting on it. To measure, you need a couple of people. First you lift the bike off the ground, measure the length of the fork tubes. Then, with someone supporting the bike, you sit on it with all your gear and feet on the pegs. Then measure the fork tube length again. That number subtracted from the first measurement is sag. Do the same for the rear, measuring from a marked spot on the tail to the axle). For the 929, the front sag should be about 36-38 mm, and the rear about 28-30 mm. Anyway, that's what stiffening or softening the preload on the shocks or forks does for you. If you soften the rear to make it sit lower, the sag is going to be too high and the bike won't handle properly.
 
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