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Hi clever forum folk.
Wonder if you can help - took the old girl (2000 929) to the MOT station yesterday. She was going beautifully after a winter of new fork seals, shock, swing arm clean and grease, general cleaning up. Parked outside the shop after a 10 mile ride, when I came out she wouldn't fire up. Rescued her home. Full description of fault - ignition on, oil light & FI light come on. Green key light comes on solid, starts flashing after 10 seconds or so, 2 short, 1 long, 1 short. This indicates a faulty ecm :idunno: I think. Both keys same indication. Apart from replacing the ecm, any other ideas? Don't know anyone else with one of these, I'm afraid, to borrow bits from. I live in Hailsham UK. Does anyone know if Carmo in the Netherlands are good for test/repair of my existing ecu? About £250 OUCH but am not keen on buying some piece of crap off ebay.
Thanks chaps, ride safe.
 

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Have you tried disconnecting battery, going for a cuppa and coming back to try it? Always try a restart first :)
 

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Thanks Spaz, I tried that, battery disconnected and with both keys, still the same damn problem.
Bluevitz I'm going to pull the bodywork and start making my way through the connectors.
Bloody ol' motorbikes.
 

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Bumders, dunno about that Dutch company, but i have used 'bba reman' before with great success, it was a car ecu though, dunno if they do bikes.
 

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Let us know if you manage to find the issue. If it's like mine you can jumper the fuel cut off relay so there is power to the fuel pump. My bike then fires up.
 

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Let us know if you manage to find the issue. If it's like mine you can jumper the fuel cut off relay so there is power to the fuel pump. My bike then fires up.
Oh that's interesting, Ace. Why did you do that, same problem as mine? What did you do, leave the relay out and jumper the 2 pins? I was wondering, does the pump then run all the time or is it controlled in some way by fuel pressure?
 

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Well I got the bike like that... I was wondering why the fuel pump would always run.
Turns out when I installed a new relay it just wouldn't prime.
What was also interesting was when I killed the power to the fuel pump the bike would cut out. Therefore my thinking is when the bike starts the fuel pump is put back on.
I'm guessing the ecu primes the bike then turns off the pump to start the bike then starts pumping fuel. I'm at the stage either there is an issue with the HISS cables or the ecu/ecm is gubbed. In any case the jumper fixed it for now.

 

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Hi, I jumpered out the fuel cut off relay and the pump now is permanently on. Error still flashes and the bike will not start though. Can anybody offer any help or shall I send it off (at vast expense) to Carmo electronics in the Netherlands? Cant think of anything else to try......
 

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UPDATE
sent the ECM off to Carmo electronics in Holland. They told me that at some point in the past it had been reprogrammed with new keys. This is done by drilling a hole in the unit. Afterwards whoever twat it was only sealed the hole with silicone when it needs to be epoxied. So, water got inside and corroded it. They've fixed it apparently, now just waiting to get it back. I'll let you know when it's back on the road.
 

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Carmo replaced the memory chip and programmed 3 keys I sent with the ECU. They rang me before starting the work for approval. They charged £244 for everything and it has a year's warranty. It took about 3 weeks. Plugged it in and it worked perfectly. A bit pricey I guess but maybe you get what you pay for.
 

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UPDATE
sent the ECM off to Carmo electronics in Holland. They told me that at some point in the past it had been reprogrammed with new keys. This is done by drilling a hole in the unit. Afterwards whoever twat it was only sealed the hole with silicone when it needs to be epoxied. So, water got inside and corroded it. They've fixed it apparently, now just waiting to get it back. I'll let you know when it's back on the road.
You will know what's going on with the guy... :smilebig::smilebig:
 

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Hi clever forum folk.
Wonder if you can help - took the old girl (2000 929) to the MOT station yesterday. She was going beautifully after a winter of new fork seals, shock, swing arm clean and grease, general cleaning up. Parked outside the shop after a 10 mile ride, when I came out she wouldn't fire up. Rescued her home. Full description of fault - ignition on, oil light & FI light come on. Green key light comes on solid, starts flashing after 10 seconds or so, 2 short, 1 long, 1 short. This indicates a faulty ecm :idunno: I think. Both keys same indication. Apart from replacing the ecm, any other ideas? Don't know anyone else with one of these, I'm afraid, to borrow bits from. I live in Hailsham UK. Does anyone know if Carmo in the Netherlands are good for test/repair of my existing ecu? About £250 OUCH but am not keen on buying some piece of crap off ebay.
Thanks chaps, ride safe.
Hi dit you win i have the same problem and dont know what to do
 
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