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Does anyone have any experience using a Haynes workshop manual for their 929 ?

I'm looking at buying one for my bike, the official Honda factory manual is $337 in Australia, and the Haynes version is only $55...I know the official one is super detailed and 100% accurate - but $337 !

I really only want the manual for basic maintenance and servicing - no intentions of attempting a complete engine rebuild (at this point in time anyway !).

Cheers, Spanky.
 

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I have never used the Haynes manual but I bought a new, in the plastic, Honda manual on EBAY for 35 bucks to my door. I'm sure the Haynes manual will be sufficient though.
 

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The Honda workshop manuals are superior, but the Haynes ones are still pretty good. I have a Haynes for my 600F3 and I've never felt the need to get the Honda manual.
If you want the Honda manual it might be worth trying to get one from abroad. I can't remember how much I paid for my 929 service manual (from David Silver Spares) but it wasn't very much more than a Haynes. Of course there are regional model variations but the differences are usually minor.
 

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Dealer cost for the 929, 954 or RC51 Honda Manual is 38.00 in the US. I paid exactly that for my 929 and RC51 manuals from the dealer. Is the Australian dollar that low?
 

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I paid exactly that for my 929 and RC51 manuals from the dealer. Is the Australian dollar that low?
Your kidding right ? :) ..... were not a 3rd world country ... yet. No seriously , 38usd is 48aud, but its nothing to do with currency, its supply and demand, and also a overall "luxury" of what your prepared to pay for it. In the Toyota manuals a Gt-Four Celica Turbo AWD engine manual is $38aud. The Hilux (1000x more common) 4wd as known as the Pickup in USA, is $175aud. They know people will still pay $175 ..... so they may aswell make a killing.

May also find that the Aus manual differs and is a different part number form the USA version, as we dont have any of the US only items listed as one may find in the CA spec bikes etc etc. I have the 5 disk workshop manual collection (sorry people serial numbered) that does every Honda bike (fun, TRX, Sport, Cruiser, Offroad, Farm etc etc) from about 1980 to 2005 but .... iof i did not, i would still happily pay $337aud for the content of the Honda manuals, as they really are that good IMHO.
 

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Call another dealer! Are you going to tell us there are zero on-line Honda dealers in Australia? And zero Dealers around the world willing to send you a manual for a reasonable price?
 

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Call another dealer! Are you going to tell us there are zero on-line Honda dealers in Australia? And zero Dealers around the world willing to send you a manual for a reasonable price?
For most parts, Honda has a fixed pricing system, a RRP. You can find 30 dealers, online or not and the price will be within a dozen dollars. To help him out and clarify, do you guys in the US have a P/N for your books on the 929 ?
 

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How can that be? That would be communism. :huh: I know socialism is only one step away from communism, but price fixing is a huge step towards the big "C".
Hey Nedro, Its shithouse .... if there is ONE thing in Aus , its that people dont understand the concept of mass sales, rather than making a killing off a couple dozen . Honda or anyone for that matter would love to sell you a book for 300bux, and ignore the fact that if it cost 30bux, possibly 20 people would buy it compared to yourself only at that given time. Its stupid .

Having said that tho ... like i said before if its a Aus specific 929 manual like a couple other bike and all car manuals are, its a MUCH smaller market, hence the prints in Japan cost a lot more. Volume of buy in ... but hey i cant say if they are or not.

EDIT : And this is the cheaper parts. Between the US dollar in USA and Aus dollar in Aus value in thier own land .... is minimal. We pay $6.00aud for a Big Mac meal, you guys pay $5.50usd for a Big Mac meal there... same with other things, deourdorant, toothpaste and such things, all a tad cheaper in the US, but when comparing the val;ue of the dollar in each country its allmost 1:1. Till you get to bikes and cars. Can you imagine paying $18,500usd for a CBR1000 or $22,000usd for a RC51 like i did here ? .... probably not, but we have no choice. Asshole govt taxing policies.

Could allways be worse .... a new Toyota Camry with the smallest 2.0L N/A 4cyl in Singapore costs $127,000sd or $77,250usd !! :crap:
 

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Thanks for the input guys.

I have had a bit of a shop around, and most of the dealer websites don't list trivia such as individual manuals, preferring to use the "call me" response !

I'll keep trying because I would obviously prefer to get a Honda manual, but if worst comes to worst, I guess a Haynes will be better than no manual at all. Ebay might be a good suggestion though - has anyone tried those CD based manuals on Ebay for $10 ??

...and NO, Australia is not a third world country, our dollar is pretty damn strong...it's like SAF says : Supply and Demand rule the pricing world".
 

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Ebay might be a good suggestion though - has anyone tried those CD based manuals on Ebay for $10 ??
I cant say for sure as i dont have them, but the CD's i use are sweet, as you can never get fingerprints on the paper, the manual never folds up or tears over time. But its good if you have a laptop, cause sometimes you want the manual near the bike. Im all for the CD option .... if its a Genuine Honda manual ripoff, then go for it :) (not like they dont deserve it)
 

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And while you're ripping off Honda, why not go to some fly-by-night mechanic and rip off some of his tools? It's not like he doesn't deserve it.
 

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I cant say for sure as i dont have them, but the CD's i use are sweet, as you can never get fingerprints on the paper, the manual never folds up or tears over time. But its good if you have a laptop, cause sometimes you want the manual near the bike. Im all for the CD option .... if its a Genuine Honda manual ripoff, then go for it :) (not like they dont deserve it)
So some people deserve to get stolen from :confused: By that standard if you ever start making big bucks the nieghbor can kick your door in and cruise with your big screen and bike. :hmm:

See if Helm will ship you a legal copy even with shipping it should be much less than 337. Also I have a Helm for the Ascot but find the diagrams of parts much better and more complete than the Helm (although Helm is OK) The Helm is listed for $60 US
 

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Oh yes, i forgot were all saints i bet none of us has 'any' illegal software, music or vid downloads - my bad. Yes the context is 1:1 .... of downloading a manual that is severly overpriced ($5 book sold for $337 cause you know they dont sell em undercost for $38usd) to begin with, or having some grimey bastard with a screwdriver trying to steal my $25,000 bike from my garage.

You guys probably missed my line in messsage 6 "i would still happily pay $337aud for the content of the Honda manuals, as they really are that good IMHO" , but i realise that some wouldnt, and for those that wont, god bless ebay's $10 specials !.
 
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