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Better start discussion early so that once the bikes start shipping this has been beaten to death :p Couple of things I've noticed by comparing some specs and following the discussion in different forums.

1. "overweight 1000RR will catch the competition (Gix, 04 R1 and ZX-10R) in terms of weight if high-quality Ti Full system is installed" has been mentioned in many forums. Not quite, but it looks that 1000RR will gain most (by far) by installing a lightweight Ti Pipe. I compared 600RR (very similar exhaust and thus similar weight savings to be expected) Akra Evo weight savings for same pipe model with '03 R6 and '03 Gix 1K. The end result was that 600RR lost around ~9-10 pounds more than R6 or Gix. So if 1000RR is 20 pounds "overweight" (listed difference between '04 R1 and CBR 1000RR is 7 kilos) almost half of this gap should be lost after all bikes, not just 1000RR, get an Akra Evo Ti pipe :thumb:

2. Will the ECU-controlled Ram-Air make designing aftermarket pipe and creating PC maps harder than before? :huh: I know there is valve control in 954 airbox also but from specs I get the understanding that there is very fine-grained control of engine "breathing" in 1000RR; that exhaust and intake valves are controlled together. Since aftermarket pipe will remove exhaust valve from this equation, will this result with more loss in low-end/engine-characteristics in expense of impreved top-end? Are there systems similar 1000RR already in current bikes? Does this mean I need to got to Crescent Suzuki wind-tunnel dyno to create my 1000RR Akra Map :idunno:

I know this is just speculation with fine-grained details, but I need to find something to do for 3 months before riding season opens here.
 

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I am sure that ARATA will have a full TI system out in a few months--lightest best power gains for the 600RR---It is a beautiful pipe---I am sure there will be a PC3R available as well
 

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I wouldn't worry about it myself... The 1000RR will hook up and haul ass while the others are spinning and bucking...

I'd go arata myself if I had the dough, their system for the 600RR is the best from what research I have seen... It knocks 14 lbs off the stock bike I think and adds a good amount of juice...
 

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I am sure that ARATA will have a full TI system out in a few months--lightest best power gains for the 600RR---It is a beautiful pipe---I am sure there will be a PC3R available as well
Arata and Akra Evo are my main choices (both offer excellent weight savings)now that there is a reasonable presence for Arata in Europe, actually Arata appears to be way less expesive than Akra Evo (at least here in Europe) for almost all bike models. Though Dan K is propably the best source for Arata (even in terms of pricing), no matter where you live. Hopefully he will have Arata/PCIII equipped 1000RR in his Dyno ASAP.

1000RR will have PCIII USB (no built-in ignition adjustment). Dynojet has already released info and it is supposed to be shipping in February. 1000RR will propably be last of the new litrebikes to ship, but gets PCIII first :huh: Maybe some Honda-equipped race team is cooperating with Dynojet. Ignition adjustment will be an add-on (to be released later in summer), as will quickshifter kit.
 

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are we sure we even want to screw with the 1000rr's exhaust?

Exhaust Tuning Made Simple and Light

On the exhaust side of the engine, a brand-new servo-controlled system actuates a next-generation valve located within the four-into-two-into-one steel and titanium center-up exhaust system. This cable-actuated stainless steel butterfly valve resides just downstream of the collector and is operated by a servomotor that receives control signals from the central ECU. As a bonus, this new system is a whopping 770 grams lighter than the system used in the CBR954RR.

By tuning exhaust pulses and back-pressure at specific engine speeds, this system significantly improves power output and engine response at all engine speeds without the added noise. As this tunable exhaust system works in conjunction with the Dual Stage Fuel Injection system--with air flow managed by a new ram-air setup--the CBR1000RR power plant has become a model of engine tuning flexibility. As a result, this world-class machine does it all: it churns out massive amounts of low-end torque, packs a wallop in the midrange, and then caps it all off with genuine Superbike-class top-end power.
 

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As a bonus, this new system is a whopping 770 grams lighter than the system used in the CBR954RR.

And my hindle was a whopping 10 lbs lighter than the stock 954 system :D
 

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I did the Arata full system and the PCIII with map and all I can say at this point is............WOW! Hold on baby! :evilaugh:
 

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And my hindle was a whopping 10 lbs lighter than the stock 954 system :D

how much stock did you buy in hindle? :eyebrows:


:D
 

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Yep, the Arata system , mapped, does not lose bottom end, and makes around 10 more h.p. I sincerely doubt the 1000RR system is lighter than the 954, coz the 1000RR system weighs a tonne. The first Arata system I did, the guy said the first thing he noticed when riding it was the weight saving. Then a few days later, he called back and said it pulled like a train. The Arata is an awesome system
 

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:cool: The Arata full Ti system with Dan Kyle's custom map will do the trick. The Arata will drop 14lbs from the 1000RR. The total hp gain on his dyno was 157 at the rear wheel. The welds on this pipe is second to none. I've had Akro pipes and they do not compare to the fit and finish or bang for the buck.
 
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