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i was told amsoil fullsyn was the better to go with.
but mobile1 syn 4t is cheaper by $3.00 a quart


id rather have amsoil
but a few friends keep on about mobile 1 syn 4t is just as good?

any advice?:idunno:
 

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it comes down to how much you want to spend
ive used amsoil and mobile and i like the mobile.it shifts great and is easier on the pocket..anything is better than gn4
 

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Why are we even talking about any other oil than REPSOL 4T fulll synthetic?

My 08 blade picked up 2 hp immediately (at the same facility) after changing from conventional Honda 10w30 to Repsol 4T at 4000 miles.

Bike had a service at 600 miles with conventional honda stuff, an oil change at 2000 with the reg honda stuff then the change to Repsol 4t at 4000 miles.

shifts more smoothly aswell.


It is AMSOIL HONDA, MOBILE1 HONDA or REPSOL HONDA in Moto GP? exactly, Repsol is the only way....
 

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Why are we even talking about any other oil than REPSOL 4T fulll synthetic?

My 08 blade picked up 2 hp immediately (at the same facility) after changing from conventional Honda 10w30 to Repsol 4T at 4000 miles.

Bike had a service at 600 miles with conventional honda stuff, an oil change at 2000 with the reg honda stuff then the change to Repsol 4t at 4000 miles.

shifts more smoothly aswell.


It is AMSOIL HONDA, MOBILE1 HONDA or REPSOL HONDA in Moto GP? exactly, Repsol is the only way....
The only way to put the 2hp down to the oil is if you dynoed it, changed the oil and dynoed it again? The 2000 miles in between could cause all sorts of differences.
In racing, the stickers on the bike or car do not necessarily indicate what's in the engine.
 

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The only way to put the 2hp down to the oil is if you dynoed it, changed the oil and dynoed it again? The 2000 miles in between could cause all sorts of differences.
In racing, the stickers on the bike or car do not necessarily indicate what's in the engine.
Dyno, oil change, dyno again is what I did.


If you were a tech or crew chief for Repsol Honda, would you get caught dumping amsoil or silkolene in Pedrosa's bike???? I didn't think so....
 

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If you were a tech or crew chief for Repsol Honda, would you get caught dumping amsoil or silkolene in Pedrosa's bike???? I didn't think so....
If the team uses a different oil I can't see why they'd be concerned.
They're _just_ stickers advertising a company that pays them a heap of money to do so.
I don't know anywhere in the world where there's a law that says if your team is sponsored by Repsol you must run Repsol oil.

I was running Penrite many years ago and the Shell rep asked if I wanted to do a sponsorship deal. I said I was happy with the oil I was already using and didn't particularly want to change. He explained that he wasn't asking me to change the oil I was running, he just wanted me to run Shell stickers and keep the Penrite oil in shell drums.
 

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If the team uses a different oil I can't see why they'd be concerned.
They're _just_ stickers advertising a company that pays them a heap of money to do so.
I don't know anywhere in the world where there's a law that says if your team is sponsored by Repsol you must run Repsol oil.

I don't think its a law either, nor do I claim to know beyond a shadow of a doubt what kind of oil they use...nor is their oil (assuming Repsol is what they use) going to turn my bike into an RC212V.

What I am saying is that it is probably more than likely that the oil, whatever grade or weight it may be, swirling around in the Repsol Honda is probably a product of Repsol oil.

I'm not saying its the same 4T full synthetic that we can buy off the shelf, nor am I suggesting that Repsol would sell anyone the oil that goes into or comes out of pedrosa's or Andrea's bike....

It just seems a bit silly to me to assume that the oil in repsol honda's didn't come from somewhere owned by the spanish oil giant.

I'm no racer, crew chief, sponsored rider or even club racer... I'm just using deductive reasoning...

Like the same reasoning you'd use to assume that papa john's pizza is inside the car that says "papa john's" on the top.
 

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I don't think its a law either, nor do I claim to know beyond a shadow of a doubt what kind of oil they use...nor is their oil (assuming Repsol is what they use) going to turn my bike into an RC212V.

What I am saying is that it is probably more than likely that the oil, whatever grade or weight it may be, swirling around in the Repsol Honda is probably a product of Repsol oil.

I'm not saying its the same 4T full synthetic that we can buy off the shelf, nor am I suggesting that Repsol would sell anyone the oil that goes into or comes out of pedrosa's or Andrea's bike....

It just seems a bit silly to me to assume that the oil in repsol honda's didn't come from somewhere owned by the spanish oil giant.

I'm no racer, crew chief, sponsored rider or even club racer... I'm just using deductive reasoning...

Like the same reasoning you'd use to assume that papa john's pizza is inside the car that says "papa john's" on the top.
Since you clearly understand how hard it is to conclusively state that the oil on the shelf is the same as that used in any particular team's bikes I don't understand you wanting to proclaim it to be absolutely the best oil you can get.
Frankly, the fact that they're willing to throw the sort of money they do at racing is one reason I wouldn't want to use their product. If they weren't spending so much in sponsorship the product would be a hell of a lot cheaper than it is.
There's an old saying that you never use a mechanic that races. Racing is very expensive so why pay more so he can afford to race when you can get the same job done elsewhere for less. On the other hand, if you're building a race engine then it's probably best to use a mechanic that races his own engines.
 

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Since you clearly understand how hard it is to conclusively state that the oil on the shelf is the same as that used in any particular team's bikes I don't understand you wanting to proclaim it to be absolutely the best oil you can get.
Frankly, the fact that they're willing to throw the sort of money they do at racing is one reason I wouldn't want to use their product. If they weren't spending so much in sponsorship the product would be a hell of a lot cheaper than it is.
There's an old saying that you never use a mechanic that races. Racing is very expensive so why pay more so he can afford to race when you can get the same job done elsewhere for less. On the other hand, if you're building a race engine then it's probably best to use a mechanic that races his own engines.
I was'nt so much proclaiming Repsol as the best you can get, as I was trying to point of the ignorance of the original post. This guys "heard" and "been told" and his buddies "keep telling" him what he should use, but as the owner of the machine in question it doesn't seem as though he ever considered to try the oil named on the side of the world championship winning bike that his bike is loosely suggested by Honda to have been developed from.

The next thing that came from his post that tickled me were the words "synthetic" and "Cheaper". Relating his concern for the least expensive option. Apparently this is his first bike and he has yet to realize that Motorcycles are in no way an inexpensive hobby and that he probably can't really afford to be in this game if $9 more in oil is troubling him.

My post was intended sarcastic, but its hard to convey tone thru the internet....
 

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I was'nt so much proclaiming Repsol as the best you can get, as I was trying to point of the ignorance of the original post. This guys "heard" and "been told" and his buddies "keep telling" him what he should use, but as the owner of the machine in question it doesn't seem as though he ever considered to try the oil named on the side of the world championship winning bike that his bike is loosely suggested by Honda to have been developed from.

The next thing that came from his post that tickled me were the words "synthetic" and "Cheaper". Relating his concern for the least expensive option. Apparently this is his first bike and he has yet to realize that Motorcycles are in no way an inexpensive hobby and that he probably can't really afford to be in this game if $9 more in oil is troubling him.

My post was intended sarcastic, but its hard to convey tone thru the internet....
I agree with your entire sentiment.
Use a good semi-synthetic and change it every 2000 miles.
 

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I was'nt so much proclaiming Repsol as the best you can get, as I was trying to point of the ignorance of the original post. This guys "heard" and "been told" and his buddies "keep telling" him what he should use, but as the owner of the machine in question it doesn't seem as though he ever considered to try the oil named on the side of the world championship winning bike that his bike is loosely suggested by Honda to have been developed from.

The next thing that came from his post that tickled me were the words "synthetic" and "Cheaper". Relating his concern for the least expensive option. Apparently this is his first bike and he has yet to realize that Motorcycles are in no way an inexpensive hobby and that he probably can't really afford to be in this game if $9 more in oil is troubling him.

My post was intended sarcastic, but its hard to convey tone thru the internet....
:flame::sniper::spank::rockets::guns:

you want to call a guy new to motorcycling ignorant?
sure he might not be as inclined:nworthy: as you are. but it was a simple question as to quality and price.. am i ignorant for running mobile 1 syn in mine to save $12 on an oil change with great oil?

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:flame::sniper::spank::rockets::guns:

you want to call a guy new to motorcycling ignorant?
sure he might not be as inclined:nworthy: as you are. but it was a simple question as to quality and price.. am i ignorant for running mobile 1 syn in mine to save $12 on an oil change with great oil?

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Well to start, f*ck you too... especially since we don't know each other and I never insulted you or anyone else.

Next, Im pretty sure no one on this forum gives two sh*ts what oil the rest of us use, or how much we spend on it. So no, you're not ignorant for using mobile 1.

Furthermore, my post was also simple: forum advice is simply an opinion shared with many people. Mine is that if Repsol is a better oil for my bike, why would $9 to $12 more per oil change matter?

If you're the type of person that thinks all things are created equal, oil is oil and water is water, then so be it....just don't look at me funny when I bring you a glass of water from my toilet bowl.

On the other hand if you want the best and you ask me what i think the best is, don't be suprised if my idea of the best differs from yours.

Last, since you're not the original poster.. Why the f*ck should you care if do call him ignorant?



BTW, the last person I saw who enjoyed smiley faces as much as you was a fixed income earning retard holding a coloring book waiting for the city bus.
 

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I was'nt so much proclaiming Repsol as the best you can get, as I was trying to point of the ignorance of the original post. This guys "heard" and "been told" and his buddies "keep telling" him what he should use, but as the owner of the machine in question it doesn't seem as though he ever considered to try the oil named on the side of the world championship winning bike that his bike is loosely suggested by Honda to have been developed from.

The next thing that came from his post that tickled me were the words "synthetic" and "Cheaper". Relating his concern for the least expensive option. Apparently this is his first bike and he has yet to realize that Motorcycles are in no way an inexpensive hobby and that he probably can't really afford to be in this game if $9 more in oil is troubling him.

My post was intended sarcastic, but its hard to convey tone thru the internet....


well thank you so much for being the guy on here, that can determine if " I can afford tobe in this game":clap:

because i was just asking for advice.
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well thank you so much for being the guy on here, that can determine if "I can afford to be in this game":clap:

because i was just asking for advice.
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Ignore him.
Run whatever oil you feel most confident with.
It's much more important to keep it clean.
When you dump it if it's black and smelly you know it's been in there too long so change it earlier next time. When it comes out it shouldn't look too different from when it went in.
I buy my oil in drums and keep plenty on hand along with several filters. All I need do is think about doing an oil change and ten minutes later it's done and forgotten about.
 
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