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I have about 3/8 inch chicken strip that I'm just too chicken to get rid of.I have the stock tires that it came with(bt012).I just dont feel comfortable with the suspension yet.Anyone else have trouble gettin rid of that strip?oh yeah, its a 02 954... :mad:
 

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I got an 02 954rr.
I find that it handles better than my F4i. Having not ridden in a year and a half, it took me about 2 days to get comfortable on the bike... it's my forth day since I began riding again and my tires are shagged (BT010)! I use to run BT012's on my F4i and they have ample grip, so no worries...

Check your body position I guess. Hang off the bike, lean forward, arms relaxed, look ALLL the way through the turn.
 

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bjay51d said:
I have about 3/8 inch chicken strip that I'm just too chicken to get rid of.I have the stock tires that it came with(bt012).I just dont feel comfortable with the suspension yet.Anyone else have trouble gettin rid of that strip?oh yeah, its a 02 954... :mad:
Do you have fun when you ride???

(If the answer to this question is yes... why worry about anything like the above???)
 

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+1 ... I've been to the same track school North has and I agree with his advice 100%.

Scrubbing tires to the very edge is nearly impossible on public roads unless you live near some seriously twisty pavement. Even then, you might be pushing beyond the point where you've got sufficient margin for error (consider all the hazards on the street).

Sign up for a track school. Search past threads ... I was a holdout for a long, long time. I now agree, the track is where it's at (though I'll never give up street riding and touring altogether).
 

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cbr99xx said:
Do you have fun when you ride???

(If the answer to this question is yes... why worry about anything like the above???)
yes, I have shit loads of fun.I'm not trippin over it I just wanna know where I stand in the realm of things.
 

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+1 ... I've been to the same track school North has and I agree with his advice 100%.

Scrubbing tires to the very edge is nearly impossible on public roads unless you live near some seriously twisty pavement. Even then, you might be pushing beyond the point where you've got sufficient margin for error (consider all the hazards on the street).

Sign up for a track school. Search past threads ... I was a holdout for a long, long time. I now agree, the track is where it's at (though I'll never give up street riding and touring altogether).
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You have a bit more than me but if you are uncomfortable why would you push it. To impress some squid gauging your tire :confused: As Chain pointed out, having a bit left is common sense on a public road. The folks I know that had zero have all laid the bike down on public roads (and no I DO NOT ride with them) If it bothers you or squidly buddies are to big a pain resort to sand paper, the hide you save might be your own.
 

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bjay51d said:
yes, I have shit loads of fun.I'm not trippin over it I just wanna know where I stand in the realm of things.

You're alive and having fun on an amazing piece of machinery. That's pretty damned good in the realm of things.. :thumb:

I have had lots of tires of different makes on my vfr, and they vary in profile a lot. I've taken some to the edge and not others, riding the same roads in the same manner.

Anyway, the reason people hang off the bike is to reduce the lean angle at speed so they can get off the edge of the tire under acceleration.
 

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This brings up a another question I was talking over with a few guys last Monday at the track. My back tire is scrubbed all the way to the edge. My front tire still has about a 1/2 inch of untouched rubber on both sides. How is it I'm getting all the way to the edge on the rear but not the front? Is it a sign of bad suspension settings or caused by tire profile or something else? I'm running Pilot Powers with a 190/50 on the rear.
 

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I would think if you slid it out of a turn the back would be more on edge. Also there would be other cases. Remember the front and back are not in line thus at different lean angles also :idunno:
 

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Northy said:
This brings up a another question I was talking over with a few guys last Monday at the track. My back tire is scrubbed all the way to the edge. My front tire still has about a 1/2 inch of untouched rubber on both sides. How is it I'm getting all the way to the edge on the rear but not the front? Is it a sign of bad suspension settings or caused by tire profile or something else? I'm running Pilot Powers with a 190/50 on the rear.
:hmm: I'm running the same tyres and mine are both worn all the way to the edge. I eliminated the last 3 or 4 mm of the chicken strips front and rear at a track day when I was running 30psi front and back.
 

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I was running 31F/32R at the track. Maybe I just need to lean it over more. I definitely come out the turns harder than I go in. Maybe that has something to do with it. Most of the guys I was talking with had the same thing? :idunno:
 

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I was running 31F/32R at the track. Maybe I just need to lean it over more. I definitely come out the turns harder than I go in. Maybe that has something to do with it. Most of the guys I was talking with had the same thing? :idunno:
My (non Pilot Power) tyres usually have worn like yours leaving up to 1/2 inch strips at the front with the back worn to the edge. I thought the powers were somehow different. Maybe I've just fluked it. My corner style tends to be smooth but carrying a highish mid corner speed with a smooth exit rather than brake hard on the way in and slide the back on the way out. I very rarely spin it up a lot exiting a corner. I'm sort of allergic to high-sides :D
 

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Don't worry about it, the fact that your riding without excessivly leaning the bike is a good thing! As your speed increases, so will the lean, and thats when body position will come more into play. The whole point in hanging off to keep the damn bike as upright as you can. As for gettting to the edge on the street, it has nothing to do with speed, hell I can run to the tires edge in a parking lot at 15 mph with poor body position. Whatever your doing is good for your speed, and knowing that your bike has more lean left in it is a great confidence booster! The next "Oh Crap" moment mid turn just remember, look through the turn and lean it over more. You know the bike can do it (to a point of course, my point is if someone runs off the road and has 1/2 chicken strips...it wasnt the bike that failed in that corner.) As for the front, ya it takes some doing, I cant do it anywhere than the track, pushing hard.
 

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bjay51d said:
I have about 3/8 inch chicken strip that I'm just too chicken to get rid of.I have the stock tires that it came with(bt012).I just dont feel comfortable with the suspension yet.Anyone else have trouble gettin rid of that strip?oh yeah, its a 02 954... :mad:
If you go to the track you'll get rid of it. That's where I get rid of mine. If I only did street riding, I'd likely have some left, too, as I don't ride aggressively enough on the street to get all the way to the edge.
 

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Northy said:
This brings up a another question I was talking over with a few guys last Monday at the track. My back tire is scrubbed all the way to the edge. My front tire still has about a 1/2 inch of untouched rubber on both sides. How is it I'm getting all the way to the edge on the rear but not the front? Is it a sign of bad suspension settings or caused by tire profile or something else? I'm running Pilot Powers with a 190/50 on the rear.
You answered your own question. You have a 190 on the rear.
 
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