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(Swiped from military.com's Early Brief news section)

Gazing through the telescopic sight of his M24 rifle, Staff Sgt Jim
Gilliland, leader of Shadow sniper team, fixed his eye on the Iraqi
insurgent who had just killed an American soldier.

His quarry stood nonchalantly in the fourth-floor bay window of a
hospital in battle-torn Ramadi, still clasping a long-barrelled
Kalashnikov. Instinctively allowing for wind speed and bullet drop,
Shadow's commander aimed 12 feet high.

A single shot hit the Iraqi in the chest and killed him instantly. It
had been fired from a range of 1,250 metres, well beyond the capacity of
the powerful Leupold sight, accurate to 1,000 metres.

"I believe it is the longest confirmed kill in Iraq with a 7.62mm
rifle," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, 28, who hunted squirrels in Double
Springs, Alabama from the age of five before progressing to deer - and
then people.

"He was visible only from the waist up. It was a one in a million shot.
I could probably shoot a whole box of ammunition and never hit him
again."

Later that day, Staff Sgt Gilliland found out that the dead soldier was
Staff Sgt Jason Benford, 30, a good friend.

The insurgent was one of between 55 and 65 he estimates that he has shot
dead in less than five months, putting him within striking distance of
sniper legends such as Carlos Hathcock, who recorded 93 confirmed kills
in Vietnam. One of his men, Specialist Aaron Arnold, 22, of Medway,
Ohio, has chalked up a similar tally.

"It was elating, but only afterwards," said Staff Sgt Gilliland,
recalling the September 27 shot. "At the time, there was no high-fiving.
You've got troops under fire, taking casualties and you're not thinking
about anything other than finding a target and putting it down. Every
shot is for the betterment of our cause."

All told, the 10-strong Shadow sniper team, attached to Task Force 2/69,
has killed just under 200 in the same period and emerged as the US
Army's secret weapon in Ramadi against the threat of the hidden
Improvised Explosive Device (IED) or roadside bomb - the insurgency's
deadliest tactic.

Above the spot from which Staff Sgt Gilliland took his record shot, in a
room at the top of a bombed-out observation post which is code-named
Hotel and known jokingly to soldiers as the Ramadi Inn, are daubed "Kill

Them All" and "Kill Like you Mean it".

On another wall are scrawled the words of Senator John McCain: "America
is great not because of what she has done for herself but because of
what she has done for others."

The juxtaposition of macho slogans and noble political rhetoric
encapsulates the dirty, dangerous and often callous job the sniper has
to carry out as an integral part of a campaign ultimately being waged to
help the Iraqi people.

With masterful understatement, Lt Col Robert Roggeman, the Task Force
2/69 commander, conceded: "The romantic in me is disappointed with the
reception we've received in Ramadi," a town of 400,000 on the banks of
the Euphrates where graffiti boasts, with more than a degree of
accuracy: "This is the graveyard of the Americans".

"We're the outsiders, the infidels," he said. "Every time somebody goes
out that main gate he might not come back. It's still a running gun
battle."

Highly effective though they are, he worries about the burden his
snipers have to bear. "It's a very God-like role. They have the power of
life and death that, if not held in check, can run out of control.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

"Every shot has to be measured against the Rules of Engagement [ROE],
positive identification and proportionality."

Staff Sgt Gilliland explains that his Shadow team operates at the
"borderlines" of the ROE, making snap judgements about whether a figure
in the crosshairs is an insurgent or not.

"Hunters give their animals respect," he said, spitting out a mouthful
of chewing tobacco. "If you have no respect for what you do you're not
going to be very good or you're going to make a mistake. We try to give
the benefit of the doubt.

"You've got to live with it. It's on your conscience. It's something
you've got to carry away with you. And if you shoot somebody just
walking down the street, then that's probably going to haunt you."

Although killing with a single shot carries an enormous cachet within
the sniper world, their most successful engagements have involved the
shooting a up to 10 members of a single IED team.

"The one-shot-one-kill thing is one of beauty but killing all the bad
dudes is even more attractive," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, whose motto is
"Move fast, shoot straight and leave the rest to the counsellors in 10
years" and signs off his e-mails with "silent souls make .308 holes".

Whether Shadow team's work will ultimately make a difference in Iraq is
open to question. No matter how many insurgents they shoot, there seems
no shortage of recruits to plant bombs.

Col John Gronski, the overall United States commander in Ramadi, said
there could not be a military solution. "You could spend years putting
snipers out and killing IED emplacers and at the political level it
would make no difference."

As they prepare to leave Iraq, however, Staff Sgt Gilliland and his men
hope that they have bought a little more time for the country's
politicians to fix peace and stability in their sights.

 

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Nice find :thumb: Guy in my hunting club that came back from Iraw a couple months ago said he consistently hit the enemy at 1k Meters :eek:
 

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The new record for longest confirmed sniper kill is about 2430 meters. A Canadian sniper in Afghanistan broke the previous record held by Carlos Hathcock. That's over 1.5 miles....now that some crazy shit right there.
 

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Speaking of Afghanistan, things are getting ugly there. We just lost a truck and a soldier to a suicide bomber this weekend. It is no longer a "peace-keeping" mission.
 

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Good reading. Sure gives you some perspective.
 

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ReaperAZ said:
The new record for longest confirmed sniper kill is about 2430 meters. A Canadian sniper in Afghanistan broke the previous record held by Carlos Hathcock. That's over 1.5 miles....now that some crazy shit right there.
The current record for longest range sniper kill is 2,430 metres (7,972 ft), accomplished by a Canadian sniper, of the third battalion Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (3 PPCLI), during the invasion of Afghanistan, using a .50 BMG (12.7 mm) McMillan bolt-action rifle. This meant that the round had a flight time of four seconds, and a drop of 44.5 m (146 ft). The previous record was held by Carlos Hathcock, achieved during the Vietnam War, at a distance of 2,250 m.

Hard to compare that to a rifle cambered in .308.
 

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Sad to hear his friend got killed by that scumbag before he was able to drop the bastard but a very good shot and testament to his skill... :patriot:
 

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Testiment to his skill? He admitted it was a semi fluke shot, no?

QUOTE: "It was a one in a million shot. I could probably shoot a whole box of ammunition and never hit him again."

Hey, I respect them immensely, but sometimes even they need a bit of luck....
 

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Testiment to his skill? He admitted it was a semi fluke shot, no?

QUOTE: "It was a one in a million shot. I could probably shoot a whole box of ammunition and never hit him again."

Hey, I respect them immensely, but sometimes even they need a bit of luck....
Yeah, absolutely a testament to his skill.

You or I would have been lucky to have hit the side of the building at that range, let alone get the round any place near the enemy sniper.

I think the guy was playing down the shot and the skill it took to make it.

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Yeah, absolutely a testament to his skill.

You or I would have been lucky to have hit the side of the building at that range, let alone get the round any place near the enemy sniper.

I think the guy was playing down the shot and the skill it took to make it.

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+1. If he had not been trained to take a shot like that, then yes, it's pure luck. It was his training that allowed him to make the shot.

The fact is, even with training, every shot at distances like that involves a bit of luck. No gust of wind to take the round inches off the target, the target didn't move during or after trigger pull, another Soldier in the area didn't shoot him first, etc. Luck is involved in everything you do, you just don't have to rely on it as much as some.
 

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Just for fun, find your home on Google Earth, and use the "measure" tool to pick points of reference that distance away.... :eek:
 
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