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Great video.
It always struck me as interesting that M/C dealerships (at least in my experience here in the US) are neither responsible for confirming even the most basic rider ability nor more interested in the safety of their customers. I guess if I was trying to run a business, I would do what had to be done, but I'm sure my concern that people would get hurt - or worse - would weigh heavily on me.

I believe most shops accept a driver's license that has an 'M' endorsement as 'enough'. I'm sure there are countless stories of guys who wrecked brand-new bikes within minutes (or less) of leaving the dealership for the first time. I know I've heard of many from even our local shop. That would be an interesting continuation of the 'Buying my SV' video thread...
 

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Yeah, come to think of it, no dealer has ever asked to see my MC endorsement either. I do know of a couple of dealerships who will attempt to steer a new rider away from a modern sportbike. I think one will even outright refuse the sale. But for most of them, it's money and they aren't going to turn down a sale.
 

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I've had dealers ask for a copy of my license. It was after the paperwork was signed and the check presented to them only for the purpose of tracking me down if the check bounces.

But, there's always been a 'get to know you' conversation when they try to get a feel for your riding experience before talking about which bike to purchase. I was never asked for my license as proof. This is wtih 2 different dealers, one of whom told me that he won't sell a bike to someone who they feel is 'in over their head' on a bike...like a newbie on a Gixxer1k.
 

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This brings up another point:
Is it LEGAL for a retailer to refuse a sale based on his personal opinion (warranted or not) of a person's ability to handle the item being purchased? Maybe that's why more shops don't do it...?
 

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TAZ : This brings up another point:
Is it LEGAL for a retailer to refuse a sale based on his personal opinion (warranted or not) of a person's ability to handle the item being purchased? Maybe that's why more shops don't do it...?
Um, I would think so. I think a dealer refusing to sell an 18 year old a Busa would hold up in court, the kid could kill himself as soon as he got out of the parking lot. Don't businesses have the right to refuse sale? I used to see that sign in many businesses.
 

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That was pretty good!

I have been asked to show my motorcycle operators licence with every bike I have bought.

I remember when I bought my first 'street' bike, brand new 97 F3, and I trucked it home, because I wanted to stall without anyone looking! LOL I never stalled it though...but all the years of dirt bikes I think broke me in!
 

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booth23 : ...I think a dealer refusing to sell an 18 year old a Busa would hold up in court, the kid could kill himself as soon as he got out of the parking lot.  Don't businesses have the right to refuse sale?  I used to see that sign in many businesses.
These days, I wouldn't be surprised if someone would sue a dealer for discrimination or something should they refuse a sale. I wonder if there is a legal precedent for this?
 

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I'm sure if a dealer refused to sell someone a particular bike, that person would become argumentative, thereby giving the dealer grounds to ask the person to leave the store.
But these days I wouldn't put it past anyone to sue rather than taking their business elsewhere.
 

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I have always been asked to show my motorcycle license as proof when buying here in Aus. Having a full licens emeans you have been riding for at least 1 year and 3 months.

Mind you, there are still plenty of stories of people dropping bikes within sight of the dealer.

One particular dealer in Sydney, who sells Yamaha, Suzuki and Honda, was known to have an 'honor roll' for people who dropped their brand new R1 by the first corner - this was in about 1998 or whenever the R1 was let loose, and every 'just got my full license' bike rider wanted one. The list was reported to have about 40 names on it over a year.

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My first bike was a brand new '95 F3, I picked up at the dealer with my motorcycle permit in hand and the permit only requires a written test. I had never been on any type of bike and I even asked the salesman to explain to me where the controls were located, I don't remember them even giving me any type of warning when I rode off.
 

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ConqSoft : None of the times I've bought street bikes has the dealer asked to see my license...
Think of how many sales they might lose were they to self impose a 'no license, no sale' protocol. Or a 'no insurance, no sale' rule either.
 

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Actually, I thought the video was pretty cool....

You anal retentive bastards could over-analyze a popcorn fart....LMAO
 

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I almost dropped my first liter bike on the way home. Got off the bike and accidentally left it in gear....clutch out at idle....whoaaaa!!!!
I struggled with the heavy beast and managed to walk it in a half circle and keep it from getting scratched.....my mom was horrified...
 
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