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Hey folks. Like any forum, I'm sure you guys get plenty of the "Hi, I'm thinking about buying a (insert forum-specific bike model here), can you give me some advice?" threads. I'm going to attempt to be a little more specific in my inquiry, but I was hoping to get some general opinions and thoughts on a couple items.

First, a little about me. I've been riding for about 4 years, exclusively on the street until earlier this year when I started doing some track days with my buddies (got 3 under my belt). All my riding experience has been strictly on v-twins, specifically the SV650 and currently a big ol TL1000S. All my track days have been on the TL.

Lately, I've had an urge to expand the garage and add an inline, with strong thoughts about having it serve primary duty as a track bike. I've had a number of knowledgable folks tell me that if I'm comfortable on a twin I should probably have a twin for a track bike (if I had a track-specific bike). I can certainly see the logic behind this advice.

Like I said though, I'm having some inline fantasies (don't tell my v-twin buddies!) and I've had some good luck finding some inexpensive bikes that could serve as a track bike. Specifically, I've found an 01 929 streetfighter (no plastics, no gauges, but does have a clean title) that could be a great candidate if a face-to-face inspection checks out ok. It comes with a few nice mods (full exhaust, pc, upgraded fork springs, 520 conversion) that make it appealing, especially since I think I could score it for very little cash.

Of course, I'm not going into this completely blind. I've done some research on the 929 and I think it could be a nice ride for me at the track (if I'm not crazy for not sticking with a twin). Given the small amount of info I've laid out here, anyone have some insight on these crazy thoughts flying around in my noggin?
 

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Good point. I will say that the three track days I've attended have all included a rider's school component with instruction focusing on selecting lines, clip points, body positioning, braking, etc. It's been very helpful. I've also done some self study with Code's Twist of the Wrist. I'm still a serious rookie on the track though, so I will continue to attend the trackdays hosted by the two organizations here in TX that provide instruction.
 

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Good point. I will say that the three track days I've attended have all included a rider's school component with instruction focusing on selecting lines, clip points, body positioning, braking, etc. It's been very helpful. I've also done some self study with Code's Twist of the Wrist. I'm still a serious rookie on the track though, so I will continue to attend the trackdays hosted by the two organizations here in TX that provide instruction.
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Stay the hell away from that pathetic excuse for a school that Keith Code runs though. And don't read his garbage books, there are far better ones to spend your time and money reading.

Here's a thread about books you might like.

http://www.fireblades.org/forums/general-discussion/48789-what-some-must-have-motorcycle-books.html?

And welcome to the site!
 

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Come to Miller.
I wish I could but unfortunately school will have started and I spent all my motorcycle money on crack (actually a helemt and a tattoo).


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The 929 is a good track bike and being that it's a Honda, it will last forever. This is the first "big bike" I've ever rode, much less on the track and I have no problems with it. That being said, unless your 5ft 100lbs you will be fine riding it in my opinion. I would think you'll have more trouble loading it in the trailer then riding it, at least that's my biggest problem.
 

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Stay the hell away from that pathetic excuse for a school that Keith Code runs though. And don't read his garbage books, there are far better ones to spend your time and money reading.

Here's a thread about books you might like.

http://www.fireblades.org/forums/general-discussion/48789-what-some-must-have-motorcycle-books.html?

And welcome to the site!
So bitter.... did he stiff you on a drug deal or something :huh:

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Wasted my money on his books and school...trying to help others not do the same. :thumb:
 

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Chibb, a 929 is a great bike for the track, but it is a lot different than an SV/TL. Judicious use of the throttle is required if you don't want to get launched to the moon in a highside. A lot of track addicts will tell you the SV is the best all around bike for the track. Regardless of what you choose, don't push it too fast, too soon, otherwise you may get bit.

...and :welcome: to Fireblades!
 

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I was the one saying, "WHAT THE FUCK, it's almost 10AM and we haven't turned a wheel on the track yet?"

"Bullshit, you can countersteer a bike too hard and upset the chassis."

"You can get a bike to commit to a turn without touching the bars."

"No, I don't want to do heroin with you Keith, don't want to hear about the fact you've done it, and I'm not interested in your alien "religion"."

And more...
 

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I was the one saying, "WHAT THE FUCK, it's almost 10AM and we haven't turned a wheel on the track yet?"

"Bullshit, you can countersteer a bike too hard and upset the chassis."

"You can get a bike to commit to a turn without touching the bars."

"No, I don't want to do heroin with you Keith, don't want to hear about the fact you've done it, and I'm not interested in your alien "religion"."

And more...

I have a practically new copy, only read once of Twist of the Wrist 1 and a never read Twist of the Wrist 2 you can have. Give me your address and I'll spend the money on shipping to get them out of the house.

His teaching style is crap in my opinion too. I haven't formally taught people how to ride, but I have taught people how to drive a bus. I'll tell you the similarities between that and what and how my MSF instructors taught were numerous. On the other hand Code's shit made no sense and was way too difficult to follow.
 

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Are we all done Keith-bashing now?:beatup:

Consider my suggestion an example. You can receive instruction from the program of your choosing, but please just get instruction before having to un-do any bad habits, or explore the triple digit turns through the school of hard knocks. Life will be much more pleasant.:cycle:

MSF will teach you anything you want to know about 2nd gear, 20 mph in a parking lot; they are basic skills. Many of the principles are the same, but the dynamics of track speed put certain skills into a realm of their own.

Formal training is a good thing.
For right now, its almost Miler time. :cheers2:
 

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Keith's reverse ZEN teaching techniques have spawned a few great riders (Wayne Rainey, Rich Oliver and arguably John Koscinski), but most people that actually listen to what he has to say end up thinking he doesn't quite have any grasp on the obvious. His physics are laughable and when actually pressed for an answer to an honest question about what he has just said, usually counters with "you'll never understand if you don't want to understand" :huh: .

For most rookie track riders or racers, I don't think the Code school is a good place to start. If you believe in scientology and can handle the slant and are already an accomplished rider (like the list above when they worked with Keith), you might actually get something out of his school. If you are like every track rider or racer that I have ever met, you'll wish you had kept looking . . .
 
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