Honda CBR 929RR ECU need to be replaced, help me please !

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rcmadawala

Discussion Starter · Jul 7, 2010

Hello guys, i am new to this forum and this is my 1st post

I have a 929rr and it can't start. repair center guy said my ECU (CDI) need to be replaced. also he said my bike doesn't have HISS system. my bike have a power commander unit also .

So here is the problem, how do i find a matching ECU for my bike?

My current ECU showing these figures

38770-MCJ-641
9629 - 125898
KEIHIN corporation ED

I searched ebay for a ECU and i found one. here is it's figures.

38770-MBG - 671
9601 - 103677
Kehin corporation A

Will this ECU work with my bike? if not, please give me a guide how to select a correct ECU unit for my bike.

If anyone wants more info please ask me.

And i am from SRI LANKA ! :smilebig:

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bladeracer

· #21 · Jul 8, 2010

rcmadawala said:
So you mean if i buy a new ECU and fix it to the current harness, it might not work ? :crying::crying::crying:

If you're very lucky the harness will still have its part number tag on it somewhere so you can determine what it is. Look for a white plastic tag on the harness - under the tank I think it it.

bladeracer

· #22 · Jul 8, 2010

rcmadawala said:
Also what is the mean of "non-Cali US ECU"?

How much would it cost to import ECU + IGNITION KEYPORT + KEY + WIRING HARNESS to sri lanka.

Please help me

The US has two versions of many bikes due to the Californian government's propensity to jump on all the greenie bandwagons. I believe it's almost illegal to actually buy petrol there now

The Californian ECU and harness (and the throttle bodies) are different to the rest of the US.
For cost I'd only be guessing, but I would think you'd be doing well if you paid no more than about US$200. Shipping I'd expect around US$50 to me in Australia (if you bought them all from the one seller) but that could be very different to Sri Lanka.

rcmadawala

Discussion Starter · #23 · Jul 8, 2010

bladeracer said:
The US has two versions of many bikes due to the Californian government's propensity to jump on all the greenie bandwagons. I believe it's almost illegal to actually buy petrol there now

The Californian ECU and harness (and the throttle bodies) are different to the rest of the US.
For cost I'd only be guessing, but I would think you'd be doing well if you paid no more than about US$200. Shipping I'd expect around US$50 to me in Australia (if you bought them all from the one seller) but that could be very different to Sri Lanka.

Can you recommend a place to buy ECU + Ignition port + key + wire harness ?

bladeracer

· #24 · Jul 8, 2010

rcmadawala said:
Can you recommend a place to buy ECU + Ignition port + key + wire harness ?

Only Ebay or the For Sale forums here.
I could make a call tomorrow to a wrecker here that would be the most likely bet to have such parts but I'd be very surprised if his prices were anywhere near reasonable. Last time I had anything to do with them was back in '04 when they wanted A$375 for a secondhand wiring harness for my GSXR750 - didn't even quote me a price, just said "half of retail price". I got a harness off Ebay for US$15 plus postage.

rcmadawala

Discussion Starter · #25 · Jul 8, 2010

bladeracer said:
Only Ebay or the For Sale forums here.
I could make a call tomorrow to a wrecker here that would be the most likely bet to have such parts but I'd be very surprised if his prices were anywhere near reasonable. Last time I had anything to do with them was back in '04 when they wanted A$375 for a secondhand wiring harness for my GSXR750 - didn't even quote me a price, just said "half of retail price". I got a harness off Ebay for US$15 plus postage.

In these days ebay doesn't have the complete set for sale. i tried and i got only ECU unit in search results. is there any place in AUS to get these stuff?
if you can find them, then i can buy from you.

Please, i really want to buy this bike friend :crying::crying::crying:

bladeracer

· #26 · Jul 8, 2010

rcmadawala said:
In these days ebay doesn't have the complete set for sale. i tried and i got only ECU unit in search results. is there any place in AUS to get these stuff?
if you can find them, then i can buy from you.

Please, i really want to buy this bike friend :crying::crying::crying:

Ebay is really only viable if you're happy to wait for a good deal.
If you want something right now then you go to a dealer and pay a lot more money.
There are motorcycle wreckers here in Australia but the HISS system is such a pain that replacement ECU's with keys demand a lot of money.
Without first determining what wiring harness you have though I would be hesitant to buy any ECU as you won't know if it's compatible.
To be frank, if a friend of mine asked me if he should buy this bike I would say no way. It would have to be very, very, _very_ cheap to be even worth considering taking on such a mess. Ask a bike dealer how much he'd pay for it in this condition.
There must be much better deals around than this one.

kinel2

· #27 · Jul 8, 2010

rcmadawala said:
In these days ebay doesn't have the complete set for sale. i tried and i got only ECU unit in search results. is there any place in AUS to get these stuff?
if you can find them, then i can buy from you.

Please, i really want to buy this bike friend :crying::crying::crying:

There was something mentioned on thread in this forum recently of a place in UK that repaired ECU's try searching for HISS or ECU and see if you can find it.

Not sure what postage cost would be, hope this helps :idunno:

rcmadawala

Discussion Starter · #28 · Jul 8, 2010

bladeracer said:
Ebay is really only viable if you're happy to wait for a good deal.
If you want something right now then you go to a dealer and pay a lot more money.
There are motorcycle wreckers here in Australia but the HISS system is such a pain that replacement ECU's with keys demand a lot of money.
Without first determining what wiring harness you have though I would be hesitant to buy any ECU as you won't know if it's compatible.
To be frank, if a friend of mine asked me if he should buy this bike I would say no way. It would have to be very, very, _very_ cheap to be even worth considering taking on such a mess. Ask a bike dealer how much he'd pay for it in this condition.
There must be much better deals around than this one.

I am going to pay for this bike on installment basis. thats why i am trying to fix it. actually repairing cost is from the owner. i sent a message to couple sellers on ebay about asking ECU + HISS key port + keys + wiring harness and i told them those parts must be from same bike. i'll post here their prices

I'll visit the repair center tomorrow to get the harness part number :crap:

bladeracer

· #29 · Jul 8, 2010

rcmadawala said:
I am going to pay for this bike on installment basis. thats why i am trying to fix it. actually repairing cost is from the owner. i sent a message to couple sellers on ebay about asking ECU + HISS key port + keys + wiring harness and i told them those parts must be from same bike. i'll post here their prices

I'll visit the repair center tomorrow to get the harness part number :crap:

Even on installments, you need to ensure you don't throw more money at it than you can get back when you try to sell it to somebody else.
If the ECU is in such condition I'd be concerned about the condition of the rest of the bike. It's unlikely any owner is going to hack the electrics up that badly on an otherwise-nice bike. Your friend may simply be using your generous nature to offload a troublesome bike that he knows is essentially worthless on the market. Don't let the lure of installments drag you into a bike that is going to be no fun to own.

kinel2

· #30 · Jul 8, 2010

bladeracer said:
Even on installments, you need to ensure you don't throw more money at it than you can get back when you try to sell it to somebody else.
If the ECU is in such condition I'd be concerned about the condition of the rest of the bike. It's unlikely any owner is going to hack the electrics up that badly on an otherwise-nice bike. Your friend may simply be using your generous nature to offload a troublesome bike that he knows is essentially worthless on the market. Don't let the lure of installments drag you into a bike that is going to be no fun to own.

Just to add to bladeracer comments, have you any idea how much that lot will cost u. I reckon on a GOOD DAY and ECU, harness, keys, lock set and hiss aerial would be around £450 in the UK from a salvage yaed have seen ECU and keys go on ebay for in excess of £300 and very rare to see them.

rcmadawala

Discussion Starter · #31 · Jul 8, 2010

bladeracer said:
Even on installments, you need to ensure you don't throw more money at it than you can get back when you try to sell it to somebody else.
If the ECU is in such condition I'd be concerned about the condition of the rest of the bike. It's unlikely any owner is going to hack the electrics up that badly on an otherwise-nice bike. Your friend may simply be using your generous nature to offload a troublesome bike that he knows is essentially worthless on the market. Don't let the lure of installments drag you into a bike that is going to be no fun to own.

Actually this bike is used for couple of races in sri lanka and this baby wins most of them. (from couple of R1's and honda 1000's)

Then the rider is gone to the London (the rider is my friends brother). So my friend tried to sell this bike

One day, a man came to buy this bike (He is also a friend of us). we ain't in the house when he took the bike. (at this point bike is working like a charm)

Some of our neighbors said he tried to start the bike but he couldn't. so he tried to start the bike by pulling the bike and he succeeded.

After a day or two he complained to us about a engine miss. also he said he had starting problem couple of times and he started the bike by pulling it.

After couple of days ( about a week) he said bike is completely dead and couldn't start it by even pulling it. at first we thought this problem is "EFI FLOOD" due to pulling the bike.

Then he returned the bike and he claimed he did not tried to repair it. so we took the bike to repair center and from there we heard spark plugs not receiving the power. :idunno:

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rcmadawala

Discussion Starter · #32 · Jul 8, 2010

Here is some photos of the bike

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6068/123zly.jpg

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7355/456kk.jpg

bladeracer

· #33 · Jul 8, 2010

rcmadawala said:
Actually this bike is used for couple of races in sri lanka and this baby wins most of them. (from couple of R1's and honda 1000's)

Then the rider is gone to the London (the rider is my friends brother). So my friend tried to sell this bike

One day, a man came to buy this bike (He is also a friend of us). we ain't in the house when he took the bike. (at this point bike is working like a charm)

Some of our neighbors said he tried to start the bike but he couldn't. so he tried to start the bike by pulling the bike and he succeeded.

After a day or two he complained to us about a engine miss. also he said he had starting problem couple of times and he started the bike by pulling it.

After couple of days ( about a week) he said bike is completely dead and couldn't start it by even pulling it. at first we thought this problem is "EFI FLOOD" due to pulling the bike.

Then he returned the bike and he claimed he did not tried to repair it. so we took the bike to repair center and from there we heard spark plugs not receiving the power. :idunno:

If the owner went overseas and left the bike then it cost your friend nothing. Which means he is losing nothing if it never runs again. Is he selling it to you for nothing?
As far as I'm concerned, the guy that took the bike and broke it now owns it and owes your friend whatever the bike is worth - which is not much in my opinion.
Forget it and find yourself a decent bike you can enjoy riding.

bladeracer

· #34 · Jul 8, 2010

rcmadawala said:
Here is some photos of the bike

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6068/123zly.jpg

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7355/456kk.jpg

It's a shame it looks so nice, but it's worth nothing if it doesn't run.
How much is he expecting you to pay for it?

rcmadawala

Discussion Starter · #35 · Jul 8, 2010

bladeracer said:
If the owner went overseas and left the bike then it cost your friend nothing. Which means he is losing nothing if it never runs again. Is he selling it to you for nothing?
As far as I'm concerned, the guy that took the bike and broke it now owns it and owes your friend whatever the bike is worth - which is not much in my opinion.
Forget it and find yourself a decent bike you can enjoy riding.

Actually Rider is his brother and he wants the money. he left this bike for sale under his brothers (my friend) supervision. In sri lanka, cbr pricers are very high.
the owner took this bike for 8,096.00 AUD one year ago (with current wiring condition)

Now i am buying this bike for 4,000 AUD. if i couldn't get this bike i can only buy a CBR 250RR Gullarm bike with this money

bladeracer

· #36 · Jul 8, 2010

rcmadawala said:
Actually Rider is his brother and he wants the money. he left this bike for sale under his brothers (my friend) supervision. In sri lanka, cbr pricers are very high.
the owner took this bike for 8,096.00 AUD one year ago (with current wiring condition)

Now i am buying this bike for 4,000 AUD. if i couldn't get this bike i can only buy a CBR 250RR Gullarm bike with this money

He bought it a year ago for that price not running?
If it were running properly, licenced with all new electrics, what would it be worth to sell? Here you can probably buy a complete bike in nice condition for
If it's worth $8000+ then I would pay the $4000 and replace _all_ of the electrics. Even if it costs you another $1000 or even $2000 you're still in front and should have a nice bike.
The 250RR is a good fun bike too though so I'd definately be considering that as well. At least with the 250 you can actually ride it

If you wish, I'll try to get you a price here for the HISS ECU, key(s), ignition switch and harness, but I'll be surprised if it's under AU$1000.
And I'll get a price for left and right switch clusters and instruments in case you'd prefer not to have to re-wire the new harness to fit yours.

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rcmadawala

Discussion Starter · #37 · Jul 8, 2010

bladeracer said:
He bought it a year ago for that price not running?
If it were running properly, licenced with all new electrics, what would it be worth to sell? Here you can probably buy a complete bike in nice condition for
If it's worth $8000+ then I would pay the $4000 and replace _all_ of the electrics. Even if it costs you another $1000 or even $2000 you're still in front and should have a nice bike.
The 250RR is a good fun bike too though so I'd definately be considering that as well. At least with the 250 you can actually ride it
If you wish, I'll try to get you a price here for the HISS ECU, key(s), ignition switch and harness, but I'll be surprised if it's under AU$1000.
And I'll get a price for left and right switch clusters and instruments in case you'd prefer not to have to re-wire the new harness to fit yours.

No no. i mean he got this bike with full running condition. but with this exiting wiring. all he did was a change its keyport to a honda hornut 250 key port. because the original keyport is working to any key which are same on size (he told me he can switch on the bike with his car key)

So what about a ECU + KEY(S) + KEY PORT + WIRING HARNESS without H.I.S.S?

Is there any price deducting when we buy those items without H.I.S.S?

rcmadawala

Discussion Starter · #38 · Jul 8, 2010

Yes, please check the prices for me. i am begging for your help friend

bladeracer

· #39 · Jul 8, 2010

rcmadawala said:
No no. i mean he got this bike with full running condition. but with this exiting wiring. all he did was a change its keyport to a honda hornut 250 key port. because the original keyport is working to any key which are same on size (he told me he can switch on the bike with his car key)

So what about a ECU + KEY(S) + KEY PORT + WIRING HARNESS without H.I.S.S?

Is there any price deducting when we buy those items without H.I.S.S?

Without HISS I would expect the parts to be cheaper and easier to find - but not in Australia.
As far as I know only the US and Canada have no HISS.
You can even buy the items new from the US.
The harness is around US$350 for just the bare main harness.
The ECU is around US$850.
The ignition switch is around US$100 or US$200 for the complete lockset for the ignition, tank and seat.
I think the left switch cluster will be the same as yours but both sides are around US$100 each.
If you want the instrument cluster as well, that's around US$650.
Keep in mind that being a 929 there's a good chance you'll also be chasing a stator and/or regulator in the not too distant future.
These guys are probably the cheapest - OEM Parts Honda CBR954RR (CBR900RR) 2001 AIR CLEANER ('00-'01) - Cheap Cycle Parts - but you'll have to email and ask if they'll ship to you in Sri Lanka.

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rcmadawala

Discussion Starter · #40 · Jul 9, 2010

BladeRacer, i got a reply from one ebay seller and he said

"Sorry, don't have all parts. Bikes in U.S.A don't have immobilzer, therefore can be switched with other bikes."

His ECU's serial is

38870-MCJ-771
9631-101136

Mine is

38770-MCJ-671
9630-114802

So that mean i can use his ECU without changing harness of my bike. right?

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