Just FYI - Sportrider tested the HP4 WITHOUT moly and found that it does contain moly. Mobil 1 15-50 car oil contains even more moly.HondaGalToo : Honda makes two kinds of their semi-synth HP4...one has moly and one doesn't. I get the one that doesn't. Folks here say Amsol is better to use, so I'm going to look into that as well.
I havent tried it. I am happy with my conversion to Amsoil and like the price I get the stuff for (when buying bulk), AND they have car filters/oil in addition to the bike stuff. Do you have a link for cheap Motul 300V? Im willing to try almost anything once. Just dont get any funny ideas now that you are single again.ConqSoft : Well, if this is going to be another oil debate: MOTUL 300V!
Just FYI - Sportrider tested the HP4 WITHOUT moly and found that it does contain moly. Mobil 1 15-50 car oil contains even more moly.CBRGuy : Quote (HondaGalToo @ Aug. 21 2003, 9:22am)Honda makes two kinds of their semi-synth HP4...one has moly and one doesn't. I get the one that doesn't. Folks here say Amsol is better to use, so I'm going to look into that as well.
To answer the original question if Moly is indeed bad, you'd have to read that article in SportRider. If I read the article correctly, moly is a friction modifier that does not affect (today's) wet clutches. I'll have to reread the article to be sure, but I believe their statement was that moly destroying clutches was a myth.TAZ : I say use Honda GN4 and change it every 2500 miles. It's not the very best oil you can get, but there's no clutch-destroying molybdenum, it's cheap, it'll make Honda happy at warranty claim time, and it's 'good enough' to do the job.
Dude, I am going to have to move down there. My local shop gets me for $50 for a gallon of Motul 300V.ConqSoft : No, I get mine from my local dealer. I could probably get it a little cheaper online, but it's more convienent this way. I pay about $38/gallon out the door.
that must be nice. the stealers in my town don't give a s**t what you have bought from them in the past. it's always full price and if you tell them you can get it cheaper, they say go do it. needless to say, i have ceased to support my local stealer. (except for oil filters, damnit.)ConqSoft : Well, I have bought several bikes from them over the years, and at least one trailer.
Why do you give them that opportunity? If you buy Amsoil, get their filters, or you can visit your local Pepboys or Purolator retailer and get a much better filter over the OEM Honda version. Down with the stealers.TCD : i have ceased to support my local stealer. (except for oil filters, damnit.)
BDA116 : Honda's oil filters are actually one of the best out there, but are a tad expensive if you don't have a good dealer.