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I have a 2003 CBR 954. The only performance mod I have is an Indigo high mount half system. Don't get me wrong my bike is sick fast, under approximately 115-120 mph. As soon as I approach 130-135ish my bike seems to loose a little. I know this is normal as the bike is going faster, but how is that my friends bone stock 2002 GSXR 750 can pull me and pass me rather convincingly at those speeds. Is my bike a dud, or is honda's forte' not in top speed but faster lap times. Don't get me wrong the bike is fast enough for me being that it is my first sport bike and how fast can you really go on the street? He does however weigh 30lbs less. Could the exhaust possibly have made me loose power since I have yet to get a power commander? But if anything the exhaust should help the top end. I don't know this scenario has me frustrated especially since I was talking all kinds of trash saying he should have gotten a 1 liter. Well I guess he showed me.
 

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I ride with a group of guys with a lot of different bikes and I weigh less then all but one of them. My bike is totally stock and I can pull the guys with full systems on other 954's. One guy that was on a 2003 gsxr750 weighed all of 120lbs and I was about equal with him. Once you hit about 135 I think it becomes more of a fight against the wind then weight though. Maybe you should swap bikes and try the same run. Be safe.
 

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Well I am 6' 2' and he is like 5'8'. That and I am a new rider. I have all of about 500 miles experience on these things. However I used to race motocross so I am getting the hang of things quickly. already practicing my stand ups.
 

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HyrePower : Well I am 6' 2' and he is like 5'8'.  That and I am a new rider.  I have all of about 500 miles experience on these things.  However I used to race motocross so I am getting the hang of things quickly. already practicing my stand ups.
If you only have 500 miles on the clock of that bike, you should not be going 130mph.

Do you have a power commander? If you don't, that might explain the power loss at the top. My bone stock 929 would not get slower at the top, instead get faster.

As far as the stand-ups go....I hope you have the common sense to do it in a closed off area, and not on the street.
 

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I have good experience with 'break them in like you are going to ride it' method. Not to mention I only plan on putting on approx. 10,000 miles on it before I go out and get a new 05'. I figure then I can get a new designed bike with the bugs of the first year being worked out. The new 1 liter bike are looking good. Like the projector headlights on the R1, the HESD on the cbr, and the slipper clutch on the Kawi. Going to make it a hard choice. My only question is what is up with the suzuki's. Talk about an archaic design.
 

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Standing up is a bad tactic for drag racing.. try riding the bike the way it was designed to be ridden and you might spank the Smokzuki.

It could be the spinners too.. put the stock wheels back on.
 

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Well now why didn't I think of that Holeshot, I just making reference to the fact that I am not your typical inexperienced rider, and that if I am in fact not quiet as skilled as going through the gears at full throttle as my more experienced friend, it would have been real minimal. So in other words I was figuring my 200+ cc's plus my exhaust should have been more than enough to compensate for driver error, which mind you is extremely minimal.
 

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HyrePower : I have good experience with 'break them in like you are going to ride it' method.  Not to mention I only plan on putting on approx. 10,000 miles on it before I go out and get a new 05'.  I figure then I can get a new designed bike with the bugs of the first year being worked out.  The new 1 liter bike are looking good.  Like the projector headlights on the R1, the HESD on the cbr, and the slipper clutch on the Kawi.  Going to make it a hard choice.  My only question is what is up with the suzuki's.  Talk about an archaic design.
I was not talking about breakin, I was talking about your own safety. You said yourself that you're a new rider, therefore I(and I'm sure many others here) came to the conclusion that you have absolutely no idea about the can of whoopa$$ that bike can open on you.

Let me guess, you're too cool to wear a helmet and leathers too. Gotta show off all yo skillz fo da ladiez

If you're gonna dragrace, take it to a dragstrip. Have the common sense to keep it off the streets for Pete's sake before you hurt yourself or somebody else. There's already too many idiots giving sport bikes a bad name, have some common sense, will ya?
 

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What a bunch of pansies on this board, dude, just save your money on gear, get you some chrome flip-flops, a t-shirt, and some shorts, then go practice wheelies during rush hour and drag race through school zones
 

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1. You are out of your mind going that fast on public roads and given your lack of experience. I hope you do not wad yourself or someone else into a ball!

2. Something is seriously wrong with your ride. My buddy has a '02 GSXR 750 and my bike is a '02 954 w/full system (arata) and pciii and I can walk him at any point--although we have not really experimented above 130 on public roads. The power band is much fatter on the 954 and can pull hard in many gears, whereas the 750 must be up there in rpms to be on power.

PLEASE, so down and take a safety course! And then, take it to the track!
 

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FYI everyone, I do have an ARAI quatum series helmet, and a dainese jacket, along with the matching Dainese Joy Pants, which coincidentally I happen to wear all the time.  This is only due to the fact that I know 'the can of whoop ass' a bike can open up on a person.  I know a lot of people who have been ####ed up.  And like I said before I am not totally ignorant to the subject since I used to race motocross for 5 years.  Expert class that is, not novice or beginner. And as far as public roads I do not do that anywhere near the city.  We were half way between Las Vegas and Pahrump which is a town about 60 from vegas.  No side streets to worry about, and the traffic was nill since it was like 2am.  But as far as it being dangerous on city streets I totally agree, hell it is dangerous anywhere.  If you fall at those speeds be it at the track or on city streets you are going to be SOL.
 

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HyrePower : ...Is my bike a dud, or is honda's forte' not in top speed but faster lap times.

...He does however weigh 30lbs less.
Three things:

1. I seem to remember that a 2002 magazine shootout test I saw, the Gixxer 750 ran faster lap times than the 954 (was it Willow?). In any case, I don't think it's a given that the Honda does 'faster lap times'. The Suzuki was MADE for road racing; the 954 was made for street riding.

2. 30 pounds difference in rider weight makes ALL the difference. If you were of equal weight, the 954 would be a bit faster in a straight line. Additionally, the 750 weighs less than the 954 to begin with...

3. The 954 has 200cc greater displacement; it SHOULD be noticeably faster...but it's not. Don't doubt that the '00-and-newer 750 is an impressive machine. A buddy of mine had one that he used strictly for drag-racing - at a strip, thank you. With stock engine, but lowered, stretched, and with typical bolt-ons, he was running 10.1 and better (in the quarter mile). Last I heard, the bike had some internal engine work and was running 9.7's.
 
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