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Socialism is like a dirty word here in the US. Since there are lots of folks on the board from across the pond, how do you like your socialism? Are you taxed to starvation? Are you getting screwed by your national health care plan? Are your elder relatives left out in the cold? Let us in the US of A know all about it.
 

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Socialism is like a dirty word here in the US. Since there are lots of folks on the board from across the pond, how do you like your socialism? Are you taxed to starvation? Are you getting screwed by your national health care plan? Are your elder relatives left out in the cold? Let us in the US of A know all about it.

:confused:...er....but Europe doesn't have a "national" healthcare system. Europe is around 50 nations....this obviously is confusingly close to the number of States in America but still...:confused:

YouTube - Europe is a country and everyone speaks french here

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:confused:...er....but Europe doesn't have a "national" healthcare system. Europe is around 50 nations....this obviously is confusingly close to the number of States in America but still...:confused:

YouTube - Europe is a country and everyone speaks french here

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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :thumb:

That's some funny sh1t. Can you imagine the feast the European media would of had on her if she'd said something like that on the other side of the pond?
 

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I'm really disappointed this didn't work. Lots of folks on the board from European states, and I was genuinely interested in what they thought.
 

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I'm really disappointed this didn't work. Lots of folks on the board from European states, and I was genuinely interested in what they thought.
We dont live in European 'states'.. they are individual countries..
 

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True enough, and please forgive my wording. I was referring to States in the more classical sense, and not the state governments we have in the US. However, most if not all of the European countries are far more socialist than that US, and I am genuinely interested if that suits their residents. Those who I have met were quite happy with things, but they are from a very narrow socioeconomic and professional strata.
 

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I always hated the socialist movement in my country.

Usually people are devided it into workers that follow the socialist ideas and vote for that party and the farmers and professionals who follow the christ democratic parties.
 

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I think socialism is perceived as two quite different things in Europe and the States.

The US seems to associate socialism with the far left and eventually communism. Whereas in Europe we tend to view socialism as being egalitarian.
 

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No matter how it is posed, I think the object of this post that Steingar started (correct me if I am wrong) is to find out how all of you that live on the other side of the pond feel about how your hard earned money is used (or not used) by your governments. Do you get to keep most of what you earned to decide how to put it to it's best use, or does your government think they are in a better position to decide how to best use your hard-earned money?

We, on this side of the pond IMHO, are steadily slipping down that slippery slope into handing all of it over to our government so they can hand it out as they see fit (of course after they line their pockets). They (our government) are leaning more and more to thinking we are good enough to earn it, but not smart enough to know what to do with it after we have it. <off the soap box>

I too, would be interested to know what our friends on the other side think as well as those down under or anywhere else for that matter. Anyone? :allears:
 

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No matter how it is posed, I think the object of this post that Steingar started (correct me if I am wrong) is to find out how all of you that live on the other side of the pond feel about how your hard earned money is used (or not used) by your governments. Do you get to keep most of what you earned to decide how to put it to it's best use, or does your government think they are in a better position to decide how to best use your hard-earned money?

We, on this side of the pond IMHO, are steadily slipping down that slippery slope into handing all of it over to our government so they can hand it out as they see fit (of course after they line their pockets). They (our government) are leaning more and more to thinking we are good enough to earn it, but not smart enough to know what to do with it after we have it. <off the soap box>

I too, would be interested to know what our friends on the other side think as well as those down under or anywhere else for that matter. Anyone? :allears:
Well, for one thing, we pay a lot more tax in the UK per person than the US does. As a single man (and not on a massive salary), my last income tax bill was over 40%. When living in Holland, it was 55% even though I was earning less.

And in one sense, you're not so far off the mark. The government in England at the moment (Labour party) is traditionally more socialist, albeit far more centre-left than ever before. Nevertheless, historically when a conservative government is in power, the country's coffers will be in surplus (in part because they privatise nationalised industry and balance the budget better) and when we have a Labour party in power the coffers are in the negative (because they run around buying up the previously sold nationalised businesses (at a higher price than we sold it) and throw money at all the minority interest groups.

Property prices (in a good market) are usually so high it is near enough impossible for young couples to get their foot on the first rung of the ladder.
 

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Surf I cant figure out how New Labour can be even associated with socialism, its as close to the tories as you can get. Mind you havnt the last few days thrown a different light on things and the "dirty socialist leader" seems to being hailed as a hero in the very "conservative" world of international finance. :idunno:
 

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Surf I cant figure out how New Labour can be even associated with socialism, its as close to the tories as you can get. Mind you havnt the last few days thrown a different light on things and the "dirty socialist leader" seems to being hailed as a hero in the very "conservative" world of international finance. :idunno:
Sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I did say "more socialist". And I did say the current government was "far more centre left than ever before."

To clarify; the current UK government isn't 'quite' as socialist as I implied.
 
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