You would need to verify exactly what model year it is. The SC33 of 1996-97 still had the basic front end set up as the SC28 from 92-95 but, the SC33 of 98-99 has wider spaced triple clamps and a longer front axle.Does anyone happen to know if the axle is interchangeable?
I bought a fireblade for the track but its mixed with different components. So i think i have an SC33 front end without calipers, axle and tree-top. however, here in the Netherlands SC28 parts are redundant and SC33 are scares.. so looking to pick 'n mix. Thanks in advance
Thanks for the respons Ian. But that is exactly where i'm struggling. I have no clue how to figure that out. Is the difference between SC33 forks between 96/97 and 98/99 made visible by the brake caliper mounts? if so, then i know which model year i have.You would need to verify exactly what model year it is. The SC33 of 1996-97 still had the basic front end set up as the SC28 from 92-95 but, the SC33 of 98-99 has wider spaced triple clamps and a longer front axle.
Best way to tell is to see what bottom triple clamp you have. The 98-99 is aluminum and spaces the forks farther apart. The 92-97 is black steel. Post up a pic of your entire front end set up.Thanks for the respons Ian. But that is exactly where i'm struggling. I have no clue how to figure that out. Is the difference between SC33 forks between 96/97 and 98/99 made visible by the brake caliper mounts? if so, then i know which model year i have.
Great question!!! I based my knowledge on 3 factors.Ian, is there a way to tell just by the forks alone if it is a 98-99 or
a 95-97? People are selling forks on ebay saying that they are a certain
year. I have seen some saying that they are a 94 but they have the rebound
adjuster on them. Is there any visible difference between the 98-99 and 95-97 forks?
This is my set-up as far as it is complete.Best way to tell is to see what bottom triple clamp you have. The 98-99 is aluminum and spaces the forks farther apart. The 92-97 is black steel. Post up a pic of your entire front end set up.
Thanks Steve, these old carbied blades are really special to me :nerdIan.. your knowledge is unprecedented... thank you very much. the previous owner took out a USD fork and just threw this one in... so i'm a bit up in arms with this thing because i didn't disassemble it so assembling it makes it that tiny bit harder.
Ian, did you have any issues mounting your SC28 fender on the SC33 forks? I have read online that the SC28 fender doesn't fit the SC33 lower forks. Looks fine in your pictures?I have SC33 forks from a 96 (RRT) on my 93, straight slide in application. Rebound AND compression, as well as the standard preload.
So that means 95-97 or RRS-RRV forks will work.
I do not see why you NEED to run 98-99 triple clamps. I have read the rotor bolt patten on the 98-99 wheels are different because of the larger 310mm disc. Provided the axle diameter is the same on 98-99 front wheels, I see no reason why one can simply not run a 98-99 front wheel with 310mm rotors and the 98-99 calipers, all with the stock SC28 triple clamps.SO! an update to this thread.
However these are the things that you need to know when putting SC33 forks into an SC28...
-You need to run larger 310mm [corrected] discs as the mounting points for the calipers on an sc33 are higher up.
-You need to run sc33 triple clamps AND sc33 front wheel because the sc28 front wheel with 330mm calipers will actually foul against the forks at the disc rivets.
-The spindle is also totally different as the sc28 hub and sc33 hub are different widths and require different spacers.
Yes, I have learned that. Was very confusing when I first got my bike. I prefer the way the brits do it, with the RR# codes. I try to only use the SC33 blanket term when discussing parts that were universal for the SC33 chassis. Same with SC28, as the US 95 mode and UK 94 model had updated parts. What I have learned though, that here in 'MURICA most discussion boards only go by model year, and even SC28 and SC33 chassis codes are not understood. So usually I try to post using model years for the Americans, but then this board has some Brits, and Canadians, and we all had different model year generation changes. :SThis is uncharted area, but I will offer my
You need to be careful using SC33 as a term defining the bikes for 96-97 and 98-99. Although both are SC33, the 96-97 are different from 98-99 in many ways.
Thanks for confirming the caliper mounting position on 98-99 blades. This is the only way it makes sense to me, but wasn't able to find multiple sources confirming it. Worst case if I need custom spacers at the axle that's really not a big deal, but I'm quite positive I can use the spacers from 96-97 blades, unless Honda changed the wheel width. Anyone have some spare front wheels lying around for measurements? I'll try some part number comparing later tonight.My SC33 96-97 forks fit right in and use the 296mm discs. The 98-99 in my opinion, needed the 98-99 triples due to the front wheel hub being different than the 96-97 and uses different spacers. If you use the 95-97 clamps, with a 98-99 wheel and forks, you’ll need custom spacers anyway. The 98-99 fork tubes do in fact have a higher angle andif used on a 95-97 wheel will not bite the entire rotor surface.
Yes, contrary to common belief the 929 and 954 DO have different front calipers and master cylinders. I thoroughly researched calipers, piston sizes, pads, and master cylinders when I decided to go with the 98-99 900RR ones. Can't remember the exact reason why anymore, but that's where I ended up. I think RC51 had the same size pistons as 98-99 900RR, I have it all down on a spreadsheet somewhere. Basically on the 929 and 954 they went down in piston size, in my head though they made up for it with the 330mm rotor diameter. So, in my opinion the commonly done 929/954 front caliper upgrade isn't the best option for SC28s and SC33s given their smaller rotors.As far as the calipers go, even the RC51 and early 600RR ones are the same and will fit. I have RC51 ones on my track bike. There are subtle differences in piston size on a few of them though (I think between the 954 and 929).
Wanted to solidify some theories before I pull the trigger on a 98-99 front wheel and 98-99 forks. Didn't want to be stuck with some expensive paper weights. I'm getting there... ebay also has to be cooperative...I will be interested to know how you make out.