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How do YOU feel about Barack Obama's past/current ties with people such as Bill Ayers and Rev Jeremiah Wright?
Do you feel that , in the past, he has shown questionable judgement with certain affiliations and associations, OR not? If you feel that he has, then should a history of questionable judgement send up a red flag, when considering that person as the next leader of our country? OR are you prepared to move on from his past history, and look forward to what he promises now? Perhaps you believe that the current controversy, concerning Obama's association with Ayers and Wright, should have little to no bearing on his ability to take charge of this country.
 

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It should be a concern if he isnt open and honest about it.
 

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My problem with him is that he never openly answered what his ties with these folks really were. Everything is hush hush.
Funny, I remember hearing him discuss it openly during the debate. If you really want to go that route you might want to think about Charles Keating. On the other hand, you could just think about the issues, and what each candidate wants to do. But I guess that would be just to darned difficult.
 

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Obama frightens me for many reasons. Look at how bad Illinois is doing all democrats!!

292 killed (murdered) in Chicago ;
221 killed in Iraq .
Chicago .... Who Runs it?….
Senators: Barack Obama & Dick Durbin

Rep: Jesse Jackson Jr.,

Illinois Gov: Rod Blogojevich,

Illinois House leader Mike Madigan,

Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),

Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J.
Daley)

.....our leadership in Illinois .....all DEMOCRATS.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago .

Of course, they're all blaming each other!

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

State pension fund: $44 Billion in debt… worst in country.

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax: 10.25%... highest in country.
(Look 'em up if you want).

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the
country.

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in
Illinois . And he's gonna 'fix' Washington politics for us?

and then look at what his views on gun ownership. a man is in jail for defending his home and family because he shot the intruder with a handgun and this is against the law in Illinois. He voted against a bill several times that would have made it legal.

His immigration policy is terrible, look it up, big issues. Being a border patrol agent i see the problem first hand. bad people and things come across the border, it needs to end. Not to mention middle easterners have been smuggled into the U.S.!!!!

now Iraq... I was there and in my opinion a fast withdraw would be the worst thing we could do now. thats enough of a rant from me
 

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No, you just don't understand how your government works. Senators are not involved in the day to day management of a large city like Chicago. They are legislators, and make the laws for the nation. Cities are run by executive bodies, usually a mayor and some sort of city council.

Chicago is a mess, and you may feel free to put the responsibility right where it belongs, the residents of Chicago who elected a democrat named Daley, who has been mayor for years. Blaming Obama is like blaming McCain for the lack of water in Arizona.

I guess discussing issues and plans really was too hard.
 

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no i think i do understand... this is the kind of thing he is used to and these are the values far to many democrats relate to. Their ideas are not working!
 

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Obama frightens me for many reasons. Look at how bad Illinois is doing all democrats!!

292 killed (murdered) in Chicago ;
221 killed in Iraq .
Chicago .... Who Runs it?….
Senators: Barack Obama & Dick Durbin

Rep: Jesse Jackson Jr.,

Illinois Gov: Rod Blogojevich,

Illinois House leader Mike Madigan,

Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),

Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J.
Daley)

.....our leadership in Illinois .....all DEMOCRATS.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago .

Of course, they're all blaming each other!

Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

State pension fund: $44 Billion in debt… worst in country.

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax: 10.25%... highest in country.
(Look 'em up if you want).

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the
country.

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in
Illinois . And he's gonna 'fix' Washington politics for us?

and then look at what his views on gun ownership. a man is in jail for defending his home and family because he shot the intruder with a handgun and this is against the law in Illinois. He voted against a bill several times that would have made it legal.

His immigration policy is terrible, look it up, big issues. Being a border patrol agent i see the problem first hand. bad people and things come across the border, it needs to end. Not to mention middle easterners have been smuggled into the U.S.!!!!

now Iraq... I was there and in my opinion a fast withdraw would be the worst thing we could do now. thats enough of a rant from me
I see all your points here, it's not necesarily his fault as he has nothing to do with the running of Chicago day to day but this is like his political family...the apple usually does not fall far from the tree. These are his constituents, his people, his state...he is there Senator, if he cared he would bring all those people together and try to solve some of his own issues. He can't be our President. I also have seen his voting record as far as firearms are concerned and that is one of his worst attributes. And yes, yanking all US troops out of Iraq at this point would be catastrophic, we started something, we need to finish it, hopefully quickly but we can not jsut turn tail and run away from a problem we created or helped create.

Nobama 2008
 

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Past :confused: he attended the church up until after the start of his campaign. His ties to Ayers are harder to tell but at a minimum he began his state campaign at his house and despite his decades of experience...oh wait that was not that long ago either. Oh and toss in his association with Tony Resco. Oh then add that the way he became Senator was his opponent was humiliated and dropped out (unlike most democrats which get promoted).

If you want to go to his past check into the speculation about the person he referenced in his autobiography (how narcissistic was that at his age) in Hawaii that many think was an avowed communist.

He appears to have a long term habit of associating with far left socialists at best. If that is not a problem vote for him. If you think it is not true grab both ears and pull :D
 

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It didn't seem to bother America with regards to George Bush, why does it bother you with Obama?

Bush had several companies that were funded by the Bin Laden's prior to his election. Each one went bust, and they still funded the next one....you say Obama has possible to link to terrorists. Bush took cash from the family who leads the terrorists.

Pot Kettle???
 
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