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While I'm not a huge fan of speed cameras, I believe 'inappropriate' speed is more of a factor in a lot of accidents than 'speed' itself, I'm actually pleased to see this news report.. Every single day I see people driving while on their mobiles, eating, even putting on makeup on one occasion and it's about bl00dy time that people who are doing these kinds of things are targetted..

SPEED camera footage will be used to step up the war on motorists using mobile ‘phones while driving. Around 3,000 North Wales motorists a year are slapped with £60 fixed penalty notices for putting lives at risk and driving whilst using their mobiles. But most were caught by officers using hand held cameras, which means police have to track back through hours of footage to find evidence.

Now Arrive Alive bosses want to catch more people by using speed camera footage to hunt down drivers flouting the law. A senior traffic officer revealed the All Wales Safety Camera Partnership is preparing to upgrade their computers to search through footage for images of people using their phones.

The technology can also be used to prosecute drivers breaking other laws – like texting, sending emails, eating and smoking behind the wheel. Anyone involved in an accident will also be asked if they have a mobile, and police will check any footage to see if their phone was used while the owner was driving.

It comes after a Freedom of Information request to North Wales Police revealed more than 9,000 drivers were caught flouting mobile phone laws in the last three years.

In 2004/5 there were 1077 fixed penalty notices issued, and this increased to 2035 in 2005/6.

By 2006/7 it increased to 3038; in 2007/8 it was 2996 and for 2008/9 it was 2999.

Asked whether the safety message was not getting through, NWP traffic department Superintendent Simon Shaw, said: “There is evidence that compliance rates are on the increase. What we are seeing is the result of continued efforts to put more and more resources into targeting this type of offence.”

But Supt Shaw said it was “worrying” to see so many notices issued, and said there was still a long way to go.

Mobile phone use is one of the “fatal five” causes of fatal and serious accidents – the others are: speed, drink driving, failure to wear seat belts, and careless driving.

“There is evidence that unlike drink driving it is yet to catch the public imagination: there is still a huge amount to be done, said Supt Shaw. “The difficulty is when a police officer in a traffic or patrol car looks to stop someone for using a mobile phone they have to stop them and issue a notice which takes time. With a camera you can detect the offence, photograph it and continue with the deployment on the roadside, detecting other offences.”

In recent years North Wales has seen some camera shockers – Dutch lorry driver Martin Veens was jailed for eight weeks for eating spaghetti from a saucepan while driving through North Wales in 2007. And Donna Maddock, 22, from Mold, was fined £200 after she was caught on camera putting on her make-up while doing 32mph.

Last year North Wales Police hired nine hi-tech cameras, costing £17,750 each, with instant playback, which makes it easier to zoom in and capture motorists’ faces as they drive. Arrive Alive has 10 vans operating throughout North Wales.

Last weekend alone one operator spotted 33 offences other than speeding – two motorists using mobiles and numerous drivers without seat belts.

Supt Shaw said the safety camera partnership in Wales – made up of police forces, local authorities and the Assembly Government – are looking into whether the software used to sort out pictures and issue notices can deal with tickets for other offences, such as using a mobile or eating while driving, in the same way as speeding tickets.

He added that faster processing will also release officers from admin duties and allow them back on the road.

Northumbria, Kent and Hampshire Safety Camera Partnerships have already introduced the new system.

Research shows using a mobile while driving creates driving impairment equal to drink driving and increases collision chances fourfold.
 

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While I'm not a huge fan of speed cameras, I believe 'inappropriate' speed is more of a factor in a lot of accidents than 'speed' itself, I'm actually pleased to see this news report.. Every single day I see people driving while on their mobiles, eating, even putting on makeup on one occasion and it's about bl00dy time that people who are doing these kinds of things are targetted..
I really hope they also get the 80% of HGV drivers that are constantly:
-using their mobile phone or
-watching their DVD or
-looking inside their lunch box or
-having a siesta
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:plus1: on both, the sooner something is done about catching mobile phone (ab)users the better, same with the truckers mentioned above.
 

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While I'm not a huge fan of speed cameras, I believe 'inappropriate' speed is more of a factor in a lot of accidents than 'speed' itself, I'm actually pleased to see this news report.. Every single day I see people driving while on their mobiles, eating, even putting on makeup on one occasion and it's about bl00dy time that people who are doing these kinds of things are targetted..
I definately feel the same way about those kind of drivers, believe me I live in New York, and we have cameras going up everywhere, mostly at stop lights where the camera takes a picture of your plate when it turns red and a few weeks later you get a ticket in the mail, but I think putting cameras up everywhere starts to take away your freedom.
 

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I just shout at people who are using their mobiles (cellphone) whilst driving,i get a few comments back but hay ho,i live close to a few schools and what does alarm me (and i am not being sexist) are the number of mums with their young kids in the back on the phone whilst at the wheel.
 

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Big brother is watching and while this time the freedom lost is not yours LoopyLee be assured they will be back for some of yours soon (and many times after)

"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me."

Applies to a lot of life, you need to fight for the freedoms of others as well as your own. Cameras :moon:
 

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All of these cameras are nothing more than the slow methodical death of democracy and freedom... Big Brother will tell you how to drive, what to wear, what to do, how to think... Sad really...
 

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Big brother is watching and while this time the freedom lost is not yours LoopyLee be assured they will be back for some of yours soon (and many times after)

"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me."

Applies to a lot of life, you need to fight for the freedoms of others as well as your own. Cameras :moon:

im with the sheepman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:clap:
 

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thats too crazy!!!

"The technology can also be used to prosecute drivers breaking other laws – like texting, sending emails, eating and smoking behind the wheel. Anyone involved in an accident will also be asked if they have a mobile, and police will check any footage to see if their phone was used while the owner was driving."

ya'll cant even SMOKE while driving?

we cant use hand-held devices in active school zones, other than that i think its dependent on the "place" (ie; city, county or state) you are in.

:plus1: more for the sheeply one. too wise beyond his years, that one.
wish i knew 1/2 what he's forgotten.
 

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ya'll cant even SMOKE while driving?
:hmm: I didn't get that part either.. but we're not allowed to smoke in any work place over here anymore, and that includes in work vehicles :crap: So maybe they are gonna target people who do :idunno:

>Uk Smoking Ban<
 

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$84 to smoke a cigarette in my ragged-ass work truck, because one other person drives it 2 days a month.

WOW!!!
 

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$84 to smoke a cigarette in my ragged-ass work truck, because one other person drives it 2 days a month.

WOW!!!
I just don't let anyone else into my van... so its classed as solo use:D
 

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What is this about not smoking in your vehicle?, That is illegal? Is that actually true?, These so called free countries are a fu*king joke.
 

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If they used these cameras to catch people with no tax / insurance / MOT / licence I would want to see one on every street. Same for mobile phone use.

Speed cameras are a pain in the @rse but at least they are painted bright yellow and you can get GPS files that show the locations of them all - between that and decent observations you can cut the odds of being caught on a speed camera significantly. (Of course not speeding also achieves the same!). In a way I'd rather have fixed speed cameras than mobile units that pop up anywhere, or have police with speed guns hiding away, waiting for the sound of a motorcycle approaching.....
 

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:hmm: ..... I hope you feel strangley dirty after that comment*

*and it wont wash off!!:rotfl:
:lmao: don't worry, IAM training has not made me all pipe and slippers and no fun... not just yet anyway! Although I find myself strangely attracted to BMW tourers recently..... :eek: STOP IT NOW :bitchslap:

All I said was not speeding achieves the aim of not getting caught speeding! It's true!! :rotfl:

I did not mention whether or not I have ever strayed over the limit, and have no intention of doing so on a public forum either! :evilaugh:
 

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You will weep for your lost freedoms one day.
Perhaps, but I won't miss the freedom of the selfish tossers that screw everyone else over without a care in the world.

Besides, that's what revolutions are for!

Anyway no-where is 'free' - e.g. the US is the most bureaucratic place I have ever been to! Land of the free? Yeah, right! :patriot:
 

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:lmao: don't worry, IAM training has not made me all pipe and slippers and no fun... not just yet anyway! Although I find myself strangely attracted to BMW tourers recently..... :eek: STOP IT NOW :bitchslap:
:spank:BAD DESTRUCTO! BAD!!!*

*said in the same way, and with as much disapointment, as you would... finding an innocent looking puppy sat proudly next to a steaming pile of Poo!
 
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