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Little information please. I see lots of steering dampaners on bikes. I personaly have never owned on. What are the beinfets for a guy that has no track intention at the moment. I ride pretty hard and just wonder what it would help.
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should have know thats the reply i would get - all i know is this is my 4th bike - ive had a lot of seat time, all rockets starting with a old katana. Anways - I never neede d one or had someone tell me i did - so i thought i would ask. Seaching
 

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In all your hard riding you have never experianced a tank slapper :huh:
 

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I'm going to repeat what conq said. "Damper".

Having said that, dampers are used to prevent (reduce) head shakes and at an extreme tank slappers. It has nothing to do with "riding hard" as they can occur at any speed. They occur under accelleration and are not limited to the track by any measure... Picture this, you are going out for a twisty ride and get on the gas exiting a corner. You happen to hit a pot hole or tar-snake or crack just as the front wheel gets light at the exit... What happens? Your handle bars start oscillating... you butt's tensing.... the bike is pitching side to side now... you are heading into on-coming traffic.... you fill your draws with the brown stuff... you eventually regain control after practically having a heart attack.... you then ride right to the dealer, pick up a frigging damper and install it. Problem solved.

Litre bikes of our generation truly need a damper.

(edit: Sorry Conq, typo with your name)
 

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To answer your question, a steering damper reduces oscillations in your steering axis...like a shock absorber does for a spring. If you've ever felt your bars wiggle back and forth when accelerating over bumps, that's the oscillation a damper will suppress. In some cases these oscillations can be huge and violent ("tankslapper") and the rider will have little if any control, and this seems to be more prevalent with high-power bikes with aggressive geometry (like your 954).

I've never had an all-out tankslapper in 10 years of riding, but I did buy a damper for the 929.

edit: oops, too slow....again
 

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booth23 said:
Dampaner

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hehe... I was gonna say don't make fun of the newbies... but... after checking the n1ck, 1 s4y w3 n33d 7o 1n7r0duc3 h1m to 3ngl15h. yo.
 

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Well, first there was Dampener and now Dampaner. :rotfl:

This is only the beginning... hehe :popcorn:
 

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abtech said:
Well aren't you special . . .

Try entering a real race. They are required.
Excuse me, but when did this turn into a "track use" discussion? the first post mentions that at the moment he doesn't use his bike on the track. So I didn't feel the need to bring it up.
 

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BigKahuna said:
Excuse me, but when did this turn into a "track use" discussion? the first post mentions that at the moment he doesn't use his bike on the track. So I didn't feel the need to bring it up.
form follows function

I see you have a 900 in your avatar. Have you installed adjustable triple clamps or are you running stock offset? Is your bike running with the 16" front? If either or both of these are true, then you could benefit from a steering damper. It just might buy you the 20 or so milliseconds it takes to save your life in a tank slapper.
 

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Form follows function?

I haven't change anything on the front suspension and it still remains stock, although I plan to revalve the forks this year before summer kicks in.

This all has been discussed many times before so I'll make it quick. I ride on the street and have not had any trouble with the front end. I have no intension of spending any time on the track and I really don't feel the need for a steering damper on the street.

The reason Honda built the 900RR with a taller (distance from rim to street) 16" front wheel, was to better cushion the bike during rougher street use. After all, these bikes were made for the street and not at all track oriented as some of the others have been.
 

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BigKahuna said:
Form follows function?

I haven't change anything on the front suspension and it still remains stock, although I plan to revalve the forks this year before summer kicks in.

This all has been discussed many times before so I'll make it quick. I ride on the street and have not had any trouble with the front end. I have no intension of spending any time on the track and I really don't feel the need for a steering damper on the street.

The reason Honda built the 900RR with a taller (distance from rim to street) 16" front wheel, was to better cushion the bike during rougher street use. After all, these bikes were made for the street and not at all track oriented as some of the others have been.
You better not tell this to Dan Kyle, Kevin Erion, Doug Polan, Greg Gibson, or any of the hundreds of other people who took overall championships running Honda 900s during the 90s, they may beg to differ with your opinion . . .

According to Baba-san (the creator of the Fireblade), the ONLY reason the 16" wheel was used was because it made the bike easier to turn. Unfortunately at speed it became too easy to turn and would shake like crazy under very normal conditions due to the inherent lack of trail in the design. Several riders had the brake pads back out during semi-highsides when using the 16" front wheel causing some very major crashes.

I think collectively, the membership at .org has probably logged over 500K on Blades and the vast majority decided for one reason or another that the bike needs a damper. Your 50K seems a bit short for such a brash statement.
 

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abtech said:
You better not tell this to Dan Kyle, Kevin Erion, Doug Polan, Greg Gibson, or any of the hundreds of other people who took overall championships running Honda 900s during the 90s, they may beg to differ with your opinion . . .

According to Baba-san (the creator of the Fireblade), the ONLY reason the 16" wheel was used was because it made the bike easier to turn. Unfortunately at speed it became too easy to turn and would shake like crazy under very normal conditions due to the inherent lack of trail in the design. Several riders had the brake pads back out during semi-highsides when using the 16" front wheel causing some very major crashes.

I think collectively, the membership at .org has probably logged over 500K on Blades and the vast majority decided for one reason or another that the bike needs a damper. Your 50K seems a bit short for such a brash statement.
OWNED!!!
 

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I've ridin more than a few bikes in my life and my 954 is the first bike I've ridin that I feel really does need a dampner. I get some head shake at high speeds. Maybe soon...
 

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IL0veFish said:
I've ridin more than a few bikes in my life and my 954 is the first bike I've ridin that I feel really does need a dampner. I get some head shake at high speeds. Maybe soon...
That's what I said, till I crashed from a tank slapper.

That's what my friend with an R1 said till he ran off the road with severe head shake.

That's why my buddy said about his 600rr till he pitched it at 120 mph 2 weekends ago during AFM race on the front straightaway from a tank slapper.

Don't wait till it happens.
 
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