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...to the "old timers" :nworthy: :rotfl:

just over 6 years here... but have been active only this Summer :deal: :shades:
 

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Coming up to eight years soon. 12-11-2006
 

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Wow, 8 years. What happened 8 years ago that was so bad? You still can't overcome it?:rotfl:
I've been busy socializing face to face with people in gatherings we like to call Bike Nights. I'm not bed ridden, or suffering from mental illness that forces me into isolation. I fix my own bikes, so I don't have to leech off others with skill. I simply find myself staying home more due to the weather, and registered a month ago. Nice to meet you all just the same.:welcome:
 

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^^ Whatever

3 years, 3 months and 28 days, but who's counting.

BTW, Setenta what's up with the new avatar???
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Wow, 8 years. What happened 8 years ago that was so bad? You still can't overcome it?:rotfl:
I've been busy socializing face to face with people in gatherings we like to call Bike Nights. I'm not bed ridden, or suffering from mental illness that forces me into isolation. I fix my own bikes, so I don't have to leech off others with skill. I simply find myself staying home more due to the weather, and registered a month ago. Nice to meet you all just the same.:welcome:

Bike nights?
I prefer actually riding (even with a broken shoulder) over sitting around talking about it ;-)
I also do all my own mechanical work, but I sure do love helping others by sharing what I know. I didn't have anybody I could bounce ideas off when I was learning this stuff - I wish this place existed thirty years ago!

Got one of these this week - bloody amazing bit of kit for getting the big dual wheels (380ftlb wheel nuts!) off the bus one-handed :)
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Bike nights?
I prefer actually riding (even with a broken shoulder) over sitting around talking about it ;-)
Not to split hairs, but aren't you sitting around right now typing about it, instead of riding?

Bike nights are one social activity that replaces forum activity, and it enhances the repair business being a contributor to a real community you have beneficial contact with. It doesn't take years to see how it works around here.
So what's the point if there is clearly an inadequate source of knowledge here, when YOU aren't around? The technical side of this forum hinges upon you for the most part, with only a handful of others that most likely found a google answer.
I had to figure out how to fix my own bike myself, using a manual, and reading. I was riding and maintaining my bike 10 years before there even was an internet. It's a proven method that works, and nothing replaces that.

So I never had the privilege of receiving inept posts for cures, misleading the owner with faulty diagnosis, or worse, the needy owner failing to properly read a multiple choice situation. If you review an overheating issue recently, the needy went ahead and got a radiator cap, but ignored the critical part, the thermostat. Sometimes giving more information into ignorant hands becomes more of a problem, than leaving the task to someone with sufficient abilities. You don't know the level of mechanical ability of the one supplying the answer, or carrying out the instructions. So far I find it hilarious. I'm here for the laughs.
 

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Not to split hairs, but aren't you sitting around right now typing about it, instead of riding?

Bike nights are one social activity that replaces forum activity, and it enhances the repair business being a contributor to a real community you have beneficial contact with. It doesn't take years to see how it works around here.
So what's the point if there is clearly an inadequate source of knowledge here, when YOU aren't around? The technical side of this forum hinges upon you for the most part, with only a handful of others that most likely found a google answer.
I had to figure out how to fix my own bike myself, using a manual, and reading. I was riding and maintaining my bike 10 years before there even was an internet. It's a proven method that works, and nothing replaces that.

So I never had the privilege of receiving inept posts for cures, misleading the owner with faulty diagnosis, or worse, the needy owner failing to properly read a multiple choice situation. If you review an overheating issue recently, the needy went ahead and got a radiator cap, but ignored the critical part, the thermostat. Sometimes giving more information into ignorant hands becomes more of a problem, than leaving the task to someone with sufficient abilities. You don't know the level of mechanical ability of the one supplying the answer, or carrying out the instructions. So far I find it hilarious. I'm here for the laughs.

I'm riding again now, in short bursts, and still in intense pain. It was right on six weeks before I could raise my right arm high enough to reach the throttle, and that is only by using my left arm to raise it there :)
But today I've been working on the bus - stripping out the rear wheels/axles/brakes due to one right rear slave cylinder being jammed open and the other pissing fluid through the dust seals.

I am aware of the business advantage of "socialising" with potential customers, but that's not what I consider socialising.

I disagree that the forum offers nothing when I'm not around, we have a very useful core group nowadays, and there are subjects that I generally ignore out of disinterest (aesthetics) or ineptitude (electrics) and we have other members with much greater ability in those areas. These guys don't need Google, they _are_ Google, when somebody searches online they often find the information on this forum.
You yourself have demonstrated very good ability in diagnostics, and showing others where and how to sort their problems. Even if you can only post once a day, all it takes is enough people doing so to make a real difference to the poor bastard struggling to go for a ride :) Much of the time they just need to know that somebody out there has their back without necessarily providing any solid assistance, it can be enough for them to be able take that first leap into the workings of their machine.

Like you, I didn't know anybody else that rode bikes when I started messing with them so I learned everything by trial and error, hopefully minimised by as much information as I could gather beforehand - generally via the public library system as manuals were even more expensive than they are nowadays. Anybody that does not utilise this invaluable resource even post-internet is doing themselves a huge disadvantage. I didn't even start driving cars for three years after I started riding. I discovered computers (other than high school basics) in '93 while working in the bush, and discovered the internet upon my return to civilisation in '94 - when it was still quicker to go to the library than waste hours trying to find anything useful online :) I doubt even a single workshop manual would fit on my hardrive back then, and no way did I have the processing power to actually open a 40Mb file!

It can certainly be enjoyable laughing along with somebody venturing out of their normal comfort zone, just so long as you're laughing with them rather than at them.

I'm strong on not allowing incorrect information to propagate and I do try to contain such posts when I see them - in my opinion, a forum is worthless even if only a fairly small proportion of its information is bad.
 

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About 3-1/2 years for me. Seen a few interesting members come and go. I suppose that's part of the nature of a forum. Some I miss, some I'm damn glad they're gone!

I'd take the socializing on this site over bike nights any time. I've been to a couple bike nights, they're not for me. I don't like large group rides either: the more people in the group, the higher the chances of someone screwing up. 3 or 4 riders who know each other somewhat is perfect.

The thing I like most about this forum is the diversity. Not so much lately, but there are periods of time when we get people from all over the world chiming in. I mean, even now we have representation from several countries.
 

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I'm riding again now, in short bursts, and still in intense pain. It was right on six weeks before I could raise my right arm high enough to reach the throttle, and that is only by using my left arm to raise it there :)
But today I've been working on the bus - stripping out the rear wheels/axles/brakes due to one right rear slave cylinder being jammed open and the other pissing fluid through the dust seals.

I am aware of the business advantage of "socialising" with potential customers, but that's not what I consider socialising.

I disagree that the forum offers nothing when I'm not around, we have a very useful core group nowadays, and there are subjects that I generally ignore out of disinterest (aesthetics) or ineptitude (electrics) and we have other members with much greater ability in those areas. These guys don't need Google, they _are_ Google, when somebody searches online they often find the information on this forum.
You yourself have demonstrated very good ability in diagnostics, and showing others where and how to sort their problems. Even if you can only post once a day, all it takes is enough people doing so to make a real difference to the poor bastard struggling to go for a ride :) Much of the time they just need to know that somebody out there has their back without necessarily providing any solid assistance, it can be enough for them to be able take that first leap into the workings of their machine.

Like you, I didn't know anybody else that rode bikes when I started messing with them so I learned everything by trial and error, hopefully minimised by as much information as I could gather beforehand - generally via the public library system as manuals were even more expensive than they are nowadays. Anybody that does not utilise this invaluable resource even post-internet is doing themselves a huge disadvantage. I didn't even start driving cars for three years after I started riding. I discovered computers (other than high school basics) in '93 while working in the bush, and discovered the internet upon my return to civilisation in '94 - when it was still quicker to go to the library than waste hours trying to find anything useful online :) I doubt even a single workshop manual would fit on my hardrive back then, and no way did I have the processing power to actually open a 40Mb file!

It can certainly be enjoyable laughing along with somebody venturing out of their normal comfort zone, just so long as you're laughing with them rather than at them.

I'm strong on not allowing incorrect information to propagate and I do try to contain such posts when I see them - in my opinion, a forum is worthless even if only a fairly small proportion of its information is bad.
Once again, you have the most intelligent comment in a thread I can respect, even when you're correcting some of my wrong conclusions, and eat humble pie, you gave a thought provoking complete answer without attempting to be condescending.

Maybe people hide behind keyboards because they don't know how to talk to people face to face.
35 years in business, I only get Sunday off. Many of my customers are my friends. I don't need the money, I just love what I do.
 

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13 months, and the site has helped me no end. I've had issues that I've looked up, I've shared my issues and resolves, I've learned more about riding ( sometimes better, sometimes naughty) and overall it's made me a safer rider. I hate looking at the "wrecked" section but reminds me to keep it in check as well as learn from others misfortune. I'm not active comment wise, but I'm always watching.... That's way creeper than it is.
 
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