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Has anyone with an '08 or '09 1000RR have experienced a delayed throttle response and vague suspension movement with initial turning or with slow turns. My bike on several occasions have almost thrown me off the bike turning very slow maneuvers or initial movement. I've had the bike stall on me and not move during initial throttle movement. Any similar stories or suggested fixes. I'm investigating the throttle response and have compensated with feeding more initial throttle. I'm going to take it back to the dealer to check the throttle and steering dampner. Could the electronic steering dampner be an issue. I have quite a bit of riding experience even with litre bikes so it's not my riding technique for the most part but I've considered that as well so I'm adjusting accordingly. I've never had these issues on other bikes.
 

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Re: Wierd CBR1000 Throttle and Turn In

Has anyone with an '08 or '09 1000RR have experienced a delayed throttle response and vague suspension movement turning initial turn in especially at initial movement or slow turns. My bike on several occasions have almost thrown me off the bike turning very slow maneuvers or initial movement. I've had the bike stall on me and not move during initial throttle movement. Any similar stories or suggested fixes. I'm investigating the throttle response and have compensated with feeding more initial throttle. Could the electronic steering dampner be an issue. I have quit a bit of riding experience even with litre bikes so it's not my technique but I've considered that as well so I'm adjusting accordingly. I've never had these issues on other bikes.

did you buy the bike new?
 

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Unlike most other bikes I've owned or ridden which provide you a feel of exactly what it's going to do throttle or suspension wise to judge how to make slow or fast maneuvers this bike doesn't. Hence with this poor throttle response it's not predictable and doesn't provide a feeling of confidence. I'm quite disappointed at this bike especially after all the good things I've read about it.



Yes, I bought it new from a dealer who supposedly set it up right but I'm not sure now. My first clue should have been when I asked them to help me set up the suspension and they didn't appear to know what to do.
 

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Have you done any engine mods like exhaust, power commander and so on?

Suspension is separate but maybe making the condition seem worse because when you turn the throttle it doesn't respond. If you are a light weight and the rear spring preload is high or set too stiff, you will turn in quicker. What is your weight roughly? Lower rear spring preload and be sure you tires have about 35psi or close.
 

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I haven't done any engine mods that's what's driving me mad because odd throttle response could be traced to such a thing. I agree it's not the suspension but the poor initial throttle doesn't help with the feel. I'm about 190+ with gear so I don't think the suspension setup could be too off but those monkies at the shop could have screwed it up. The initial feeling is the bike wants to fall over with any initial movement at the grips. A very weird feeling. Add in poor initial throttle response and you have a recipe for disaster.

Have you done any engine mods like exhaust, power commander and so on?

Suspension is separate but maybe making the condition seem worse because when you turn the throttle it doesn't respond. If you are a light weight and the rear spring preload is high or set too stiff, you will turn in quicker. What is your weight roughly? Lower rear spring preload and be sure you tires have about 35psi or close.
 

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Denzee your second sentence hits the issue right on the head as the initial throttle response doesn't do what you'd expect it to then the bike reaction is that of instability. I'll check the suspension settings, tire pressure and try to see if I can adjust the throttle then take a trip to Honda Service for further checks.


Have you done any engine mods like exhaust, power commander and so on?

Suspension is separate but maybe making the condition seem worse because when you turn the throttle it doesn't respond. If you are a light weight and the rear spring preload is high or set too stiff, you will turn in quicker. What is your weight roughly? Lower rear spring preload and be sure you tires have about 35psi or close.
 

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Finally got a chance to take the bike back to the dealer and they found an issue with the clutch and it will be replaced as this one of the recall items. They've also fix the clutch cable slack found as well go over the bike for any other problems and recalls according to the manager. They were surprised that I could get the bike to move with that problem. I've also asked them to look at the low throttle issues while they're working on it in areas like the throttle sensor, throttle cable slack, fueling/fuel pump or injectors.

While the clutch is undoubtedly one of the problems I'd be surprised if the throttle end isn't a problem as well. At least this happened during the winter months where not much riding is going on anyway.



Denzee your second sentence hits the issue right on the head as the initial throttle response doesn't do what you'd expect it to then the bike reaction is that of instability. I'll check the suspension settings, tire pressure and try to see if I can adjust the throttle then take a trip to Honda Service for further checks.
 

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First off congrats on the new bike!

Second the bike is just naturally fidgety in parking lots and really low speed maneuvering. It takes alot of clutch control to properly get this bike to behave in a civil manner at anything below 20 mph. You do get used to it after a while, I have 5000 miles on my 09 and u-turns still suck with this thing. As far as abruptness in the throttle you could adjust your throttle cable slack and see if that helps.

The bike has a really "lopey" idle and low revs bring this out as "pulses" of power which can make things interesting at slow speeds.

Just bear with it, the clutch issue should help some but it was more of an issue to prevent premature wear.

Wish i could tell you that theres a simple answer, and I'm sure that in NYC the low speed handling of your bike is a big deal, which kinda confuses me since the big blades are made for fast riding and are hardly the kind of bike I would consider for city riding...but to each their own.

Oh the suspension is actually made for people in your weight range, the front is actually very good with a proper setup, but the rear shock is pretty much crap. Its why I went with Ohlins ;)
 
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