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Not the disease?

I've got Google Toolbar and the pop-up blocker stops most, but not all, pop ups. Besides, isn't that like treating the symptom and not the disease (the spyware crap that causes the pop-ups to begin with)?

I've just run Spy Sweeper and nixed alot of crap from my machine, but every time I run Ad-aware I find more junk. When I try to quarantine it all, it goes about 3/4's the way, then hangs.

What the heck should I do here?
 

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Treat the disease. Clean up your system with adaware, spybot, mcafee stinger and any other virus/spyware programs you can find.

THEN... ditch IE, ditch Outlook, apply a personal firewall and start using Firefox.

Your remaining issues are at an OS level which requires another layer of understanding... Linux isn't ready for you yet (and vice versa) but it will be in the next few years.
 

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Treat the disease. Clean up your system with adaware, spybot, mcafee stinger and any other virus/spyware programs you can find.

THEN... ditch IE, ditch Outlook, apply a personal firewall and start using Firefox.

Your remaining issues are at an OS level which requires another layer of understanding... Linux isn't ready for you yet (and vice versa) but it will be in the next few years.
I use IE and outlook and my pc is on 24/7. Just get a little rtr and hide that thing behind some NAT. It helped me since I get almost 0 popups. Except when the parents go on aol and do whatever it is they do to make my life harder :thumbd:

edit: when all else fails.. go riding and forget the pc or just stop surfing porn sites
 

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My action plan then:

I'm unable to get Adaware to run for me. So I'm scanning with Spy Sweeper which, I think, is nailing alot of the stuff (not all though - still getting some pop-ups). I'm gonna DL and try Spydoctor too and I'm DL'ing Stinger as we speak. Then I'm going to start using Firefox even though the little woman uses MSN for her mail and browsing. :( But I can only control what I can control.

As for personal firewalls, I used to run Zone Alarm but found it to be a memory hog and it continually gave what I was told were false positives.

Input?
 

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Get a hardware firewall/router. They're cheap, and they don't use any of your system resources.
No kidding? Something you could pick up at Best Buy?
 

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"NAT technology acts as a built-in firewall"

Uh, so that's like, better than Zone Alarm?

Only sixty bones?

I'm getting one today.
 

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"NAT technology acts as a built-in firewall"

Uh, so that's like, better than Zone Alarm?

Only sixty bones?

I'm getting one today.
Used to run zone alarm myself.

The hardware rtr shows the world one set of ip's while you pc uses another set to keep it kind of hidden (in a simple explanation)
 

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"NAT technology acts as a built-in firewall"

Uh, so that's like, better than Zone Alarm?

Only sixty bones?

I'm getting one today.

In the sense that it blocks people trying to get into you yes, but ZoneAlarm also allows you to monitor/control which programs can connect out of your machine.

What type of internet connection do you have? The device Conq linked to was designed for an DSL or Cable connection and looks like you will still have to have a modem to connection the NAT router to. I'd recommend getting a NAT router with build in modem to save on clutter.

Also a good idea to get a device thats is officially supported by your ISP otherwise you might run into the problem of them refusing to support you.

If you are using a Dialup connection then you can get devices that have a option to plug in an external dial up modem but it might be a bit of over kill.

I assume that you are using the 'remember this choice' tick box on ZoneAlarm so it only bothers you the once for each program that wants to connect to the internet? You can also disable the Alerts when ZoneAlarm prevents someone from connecting to you.

The problem you might be having with not all the spyware bing removed my be because it is currently running, in that case your spyware/adware scanner will not be able to delele the open files and it will re-install itself into the startup configuration. Try checking through your running processes before running Adaware/etc to see if that helps.

Also go through you Add/Remove Programs, some spyware programs do actually have a uninstall script. :nod:

If the stuff that adaware is finding is cookies then I wouldn't worry too much becuase you will pick up another cookie next time you visit their a site. You can limit cookie support if you wish.
 

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Hardware firewalls, not external software firewalls resplace a personal firewall. They are in addition to it; especially if you are on a network. The benefits of doing this are that if you do pick up a virus, or spyware, you catch it while trying to LEAVE your machine - For example, if I have a virus that tries to open up a rogue application and send out my personal information stored locally, the personal firewall will pop up and say, "WHOA! There is a new application trying to send information to the internet. Allow/Deny."

I'm an advocate for LAN firewalls (as conq posted above) but in addition to personal firewalls as well.

If you've read some of my previous threads, I have a few machines on a home lan, some with personal firewalls, some without. My GF plugged in her laptop (with a virus) and since it was behind my LAN firewall, my other machines also picked up that virus! The only safe systems were ones with personal firewalls on them.

At any rate, my zone alarm integrity client uses ~5MB of RAM... not much by my standards and a cheap cost to deter viruses. RAM is so inexpensive, save some money on a new pipe ;) and buy a stick. :rasp:
 
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